How good is the 218 Cam from MMS?
02-14-2002, 04:23 PM
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How good is the 218 Cam from MMS? Anyone have this cam installed in there A4? If so, how much Hp did you gain,and do you need to do any tunning with it?
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Re: How good is the 218 Cam from MMS? I think it's a great street cam and the answer for the guys that have to be emissions compliant. It'll get you 400RWHP with all the mods and a great torque curve. I'm going this route for my 6.0L engine buildup for my truck.
I know several people that have it and really enjoy it because it is stealthy and makes awesome power for such a little cam. IMHO, it's WAY better than any of the smaller cams under 220 including LS6, Hotcam, and any other split patterns in that range.
But it just depends on what you're looking for. I want the MMS229 because I'll sacrifice a little driveability for top end power and I don't have emmissions here. If you want something your wife will enjoy driving everyday and something you can sneak to the track, then this is the cam for you.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Scott
I know several people that have it and really enjoy it because it is stealthy and makes awesome power for such a little cam. IMHO, it's WAY better than any of the smaller cams under 220 including LS6, Hotcam, and any other split patterns in that range.
But it just depends on what you're looking for. I want the MMS229 because I'll sacrifice a little driveability for top end power and I don't have emmissions here. If you want something your wife will enjoy driving everyday and something you can sneak to the track, then this is the cam for you.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Scott
02-16-2002, 08:24 PM
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Re: How good is the 218 Cam from MMS? CompCam lobe #3752/3752 will get you a: 218/218 .527/.527 114 LSA (Custom Xtreme RPM)
On the MMS website, they dont tell you what lift there 218 cam has. All it says is "MMS 218 cam P/N MMS2007"
I assume the MMS 218 cam has a higher lift than the CompCam #3752/3752.
Question: Is there that much more power in the higher lift 218 MMS cam when used on a Stage 1 heads, LT headers car than the #3752/3752 to sacrifice greater valvetrain wear/spring longivity?
Ron,
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On the MMS website, they dont tell you what lift there 218 cam has. All it says is "MMS 218 cam P/N MMS2007"
I assume the MMS 218 cam has a higher lift than the CompCam #3752/3752.
Question: Is there that much more power in the higher lift 218 MMS cam when used on a Stage 1 heads, LT headers car than the #3752/3752 to sacrifice greater valvetrain wear/spring longivity?
Ron,
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02-17-2002, 12:46 AM
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Re: How good is the 218 Cam from MMS? [quote]Originally posted by Jantzer98SS:
<strong>I think it's a great street cam and the answer for the guys that have to be emissions compliant. It'll get you 400RWHP with all the mods and a great torque curve. I'm going this route for my 6.0L engine buildup for my truck.
I know several people that have it and really enjoy it because it is stealthy and makes awesome power for such a little cam. IMHO, it's WAY better than any of the smaller cams under 220 including LS6, Hotcam, and any other split patterns in that range.
But it just depends on what you're looking for. I want the MMS229 because I'll sacrifice a little driveability for top end power and I don't have emmissions here. If you want something your wife will enjoy driving everyday and something you can sneak to the track, then this is the cam for you.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Scott</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks! That's just what i was needing to hear. Unofrtunately I have emissons hear in Delaware, not to mention I'm trying to get orders to Guam. I have to make sure it stays as street legal as possible till i get back to the US. I just hope it gives me 30RWHP as advertised <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
[ February 16, 2002: Message edited by: 2000SLVR_Z28 ]</p>
<strong>I think it's a great street cam and the answer for the guys that have to be emissions compliant. It'll get you 400RWHP with all the mods and a great torque curve. I'm going this route for my 6.0L engine buildup for my truck.
I know several people that have it and really enjoy it because it is stealthy and makes awesome power for such a little cam. IMHO, it's WAY better than any of the smaller cams under 220 including LS6, Hotcam, and any other split patterns in that range.
But it just depends on what you're looking for. I want the MMS229 because I'll sacrifice a little driveability for top end power and I don't have emmissions here. If you want something your wife will enjoy driving everyday and something you can sneak to the track, then this is the cam for you.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Scott</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks! That's just what i was needing to hear. Unofrtunately I have emissons hear in Delaware, not to mention I'm trying to get orders to Guam. I have to make sure it stays as street legal as possible till i get back to the US. I just hope it gives me 30RWHP as advertised <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
[ February 16, 2002: Message edited by: 2000SLVR_Z28 ]</p>
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Re: How good is the 218 Cam from MMS? Cams with the same duration @ .050 with significantly different lifts are considerably different. Think about how much faster/steeper the ramps need to be to open the valves say .040" more within the same amount of time (218 degrees). I would also assume that the more aggressive lobe would have lower advertised duration numbers. This generally means the cam will have better street manners and a smoother idle in comparison. Oh, and it should make more power from the increased lift. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> All else being equal.
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02-18-2002, 08:59 AM
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Re: How good is the 218 Cam from MMS? The comp 3712 lobe is 0.331 at the lobe. That makes it 0.563 at the valve w/ stock rockers. Probably what's used here? The extra lift won't make it that much more aggressive on the ramps since the new XE lobes are relativly broad and flat at the top.
02-18-2002, 02:18 PM
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Re: How good is the 218 Cam from MMS? [quote]Originally posted by spiesscj:
<strong>The comp 3712 lobe is 0.331 at the lobe. That makes it 0.563 at the valve w/ stock rockers. Probably what's used here? The extra lift won't make it that much more aggressive on the ramps since the new XE lobes are relativly broad and flat at the top.</strong><hr></blockquote>
We don't use Comp XE lobes.
[ February 18, 2002: Message edited by: Mike Morgan ]</p>
<strong>The comp 3712 lobe is 0.331 at the lobe. That makes it 0.563 at the valve w/ stock rockers. Probably what's used here? The extra lift won't make it that much more aggressive on the ramps since the new XE lobes are relativly broad and flat at the top.</strong><hr></blockquote>
We don't use Comp XE lobes.
[ February 18, 2002: Message edited by: Mike Morgan ]</p>
