Joe Kizzire

Over the last few weeks the guys at SAM have been in the process of doing a little more work on my heads and Judson recomended a cam change. So out with the 238/241 615/605 and in with the 252/258 650/650...

I got everything back togeather and then fought a ignition bug for a few days. Guys..... BE SURE THE GROUND WIRES ON THE BACK OF THE DRIVERS SIDE HEAD ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND TIGHT. Mine were on but not tight. These ground points are for all that is important with the PCM, coils, O2 heaters and a bunch of other stuff.

After getting everything like it needed to be I hooked up the Autotap and down the road I went. After driving for 30 miles I got me a cold drink,let the engine cool and pulled out on my favorite taxpayer owned testtrack. I went from a slight roll with the shiftlight set at 7000, hit the spacebar on the computer and away I went.
Before I was ready the little light was on and I missed that shift point by 200 rpm but the engine felt like it wanted to turn more. I ignored the light on the 2-3 and 3-4 shifts and shifted when it felt about right. Without a reliable tach I had to read the Autotap log to see what the engine liked.
2-3 shift 7937, 3-4 shift7900 and 7500 in 4th before letting off.

All I can say is at fifty years of age a six speed with a 7900 rpm engine is better than sex.

Judson it worked just like you said it would!!!
I guess it's my time to buy at the diner.

<small>[ April 30, 2002, 06:06 AM: Message edited by: Joe Kizzire ]</small>

01 SS Jay

Holy **** you turned that thing up. Last time I heard a V8 shift that high was an old 350 my dad built with a solid lift cam. He'd shift around 8000-8500 in that.
How did it sound wound up that tight?? Id love to hear a sound clip.

Toxic Texan

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Geeeez are you kidding me??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

When are we going to get the track and dyno numbers? <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Toxic Texan:
<strong> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Geeeez are you kidding me??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

When are we going to get the track and dyno numbers? <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A gear change is in order now so as soon as I get that done off to the track I go.

I'll get on a dyno if I'm near one but track testing means more to me.

<small>[ April 30, 2002, 06:46 AM: Message edited by: Joe Kizzire ]</small>

lafnatu

man!!!, i hope i'm still doing that kinda **** when im 50.i'll probably be lounging in my craftmatic adjustable bed. sounds like alot of fun, wish i could ride in it. bring on the dyno.

gwj

Great! Who says us old guys can't have fun? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Patrick G

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Congrats Joe. I saw your flow sheets at SAM and all I can say is OMG! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> You've got the highest flowing LS1 heads I've ever seen. Matched with that "manly" cam, you should be flying in your heavyweight 'bird. Kudos to Judson and the crew at SAM and good going Joe.

Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Patrick G:
<strong>Congrats Joe. I saw your flow sheets at SAM and all I can say is OMG! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> You've got the highest flowing LS1 heads I've ever seen. Matched with that "manly" cam, you should be flying in your heavyweight 'bird. Kudos to Judson and the crew at SAM and good going Joe.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks Patrick.... Still got to do a little tuning on the pcm like raising the idle to 1150 and giving it a little more timing at idle. It's a little rich.

Maybe I can get down to BR and get on the drum at ThunderRacing and see what the AF ratio is like and find the shift points. I do know that this cam is a serious piece. It does not have alot of low rpm cylinder pressure so it takes some finess to start off at a light.

I also forgot to thank Linda.... Linda the next time I'm in town I'll make you some icecream.

Nine Ball

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Welcome back Joe, looking forward to seeing you run some 10s with the hog now.

252 cam? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

Smoke_ur_5.0

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Good Golly Miss Molly! That cam is huge!

Jason99T/A

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Now, that's what I'm talking about Joe. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Get back down here so we can head to No Problem Raceway.

I'm buying dinner if you let me drive it once or twice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

I'm going to give you a call tonight on your cell phone.

Damian

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Hey Joe, shifting that high you might wanna looking into a stump puller gear ratio like Fireball(Brian) is running. He's running a 4:71 gear w/ his 229 cam, shifting at ~6800 with is nothing compared to your 7500+ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

Josh

Jason 98 TA

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Joe you wouldnt need that big a cam if you'd lose a few pounds! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jason 98 TA:
<strong>Joe you wouldnt need that big a cam if you'd lose a few pounds! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LMAO! Dude, don't rag on his weight or we won't get any homemade ice cream. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> It was good to hear that your problems were solved when ya called this morning. I can only imagine how awesome it sounds at 7,900! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Where was your limiter set when you were in Bowling Green last September? I know it was over 7k, and when you would leave off of the limiter that car was SCREAMING! That's damn nice music to the ears.

Get those "old man" gears out of there, stick in AT LEAST a set of 4.88's, and let us know how it works when ya sidestep it at 7,500. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

95 Formula

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awesome joe. Good to hear you got it back on the road again. I don't think our racing will be any fun any more though...well..it won't be any fun for me anyway..heheheh. I found some "problems" with mine too that have been resolved but not enogh to make up for you cam change. Now put in some 4.88s and go set some hot weather 10s in that heave car you got. Shoot..since your getting 1000 more rpms out of it you may need alittle more gear...hehehehe...man...its gonna be wild.

Oh..trever..here is one of his BG runs with him leaving on the limiter...awesome.

http://jason99ta.slowcar.net/joek_timh.mpeg

Tim

Joe Kizzire

Chris and Trevor if I could get the 30x9 Hoosier radial stocker tire on the car I would put the 5.13's in but since I'm stuck with the 28x10's I guess I'll go with the 4.88's.

Jason the next time I make homemade icecream at the track you just stand over to the side and watch the rest of us eat.

Joseph when I was handed the cam I ask that same question and I was told that information was on a need to know and I didn't need to know. I was told to put it in on 109, lash at .016 and have fun.

The cam came from LSM Systems Engineering and you don't even get a cam card and I didn't bother with doing alot of meassuring when I put it in.

Nine Ball

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Cool video Tim! You just posted it because you won <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Tony

95 Formula

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>Cool video Tim! You just posted it because you won <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sigh...them memories....lol <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Sears

What intake manifold are you using?

Justin

Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jsears8:
<strong>What intake manifold are you using?

Justin</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LS6 intake with stock TB and mass air. No tricks!!!

Tony Tim keep's that video around and drags it out ever so often to remind me not to go to a race with a new combination without working out the bugs first.