422 juiced vs. 382 blown
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422 juiced vs. 382 blown Alright need some opinoins here I am having a new motor put in my 01 ws6 m6. I have two options either the mti 422 with a 150 shot wet. Or a 382 blown with a vortech.. Which would u guys rather have... obviously more power from the 422 but I like the idea of the blower being power there all the time. Hoping to order this week..thanks
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown Go with the 422 with spray for sure.
It will WIPE up the 382 and you will have no tuning/reliability issues with it off spray.
No brainer for me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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ps- The Vortech blower is way undersized for even stock displacement heads/cam cars PLUS you will need a fully custom fuel system with dual pumps and rising rate regulator, 50# injectors and LS1edit programming.
Definitely the 422 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
It will WIPE up the 382 and you will have no tuning/reliability issues with it off spray.
No brainer for me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Cheers,
Chris
ps- The Vortech blower is way undersized for even stock displacement heads/cam cars PLUS you will need a fully custom fuel system with dual pumps and rising rate regulator, 50# injectors and LS1edit programming.
Definitely the 422 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Vortech blower is way undersized for even stock displacement heads/cam cars PLUS you will need a fully custom fuel system with dual pumps and rising rate regulator, 50# injectors and LS1edit programming.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chris with a little work I have made my g-trim flow enough air for about 670 crank ponies.
I may do a smidge of work on the diffuser and get it close to 700.
Good for around 600RWHP.
Don't matter if it's a 346 or 422. 600 is about the limit for the vortech G-trim in a ported form IMO.I would go for a bigger blower if you want more than 550RWHP without working it Like I have done.
But it's not that small if you know what you are doing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Steve
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chris with a little work I have made my g-trim flow enough air for about 670 crank ponies.
I may do a smidge of work on the diffuser and get it close to 700.
Good for around 600RWHP.
Don't matter if it's a 346 or 422. 600 is about the limit for the vortech G-trim in a ported form IMO.I would go for a bigger blower if you want more than 550RWHP without working it Like I have done.
But it's not that small if you know what you are doing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Steve
Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown Definitely the 422ci! 500 rwhp is plenty of power to have "all the time" on motor alone. That nitrous would just be bonus that you will probably never really need to beat 99% of the cars you come across.
My MTI 434ci runs okay <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Welcome to the site! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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My MTI 434ci runs okay <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Welcome to the site! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown No doubt. Go 422! It'll have more power than any sane person needs on the street and for those insane moments (yes, I have them too! <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> ) a 150 shot would REALLY motivate you. The 382/blower combo wouldn't stand a chance! <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown It's a no-brainer.(Unless you MUSThave that whistling sound) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
422 on juice?Imagine the torque.........
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422 on juice?Imagine the torque.........
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown 422 all the way and if money is no object then put a vortech on top of it.Otherwise it will be plenty good on motor and you could add juice not that you will ever need it.Well maybe... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MrWS6:
<strong>... obviously more power from the 422 </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess maybe with the head lifting issues with many boosted ls1's , NOW a 422 may be be a better set up. At least a THIS POINT.
But i wouldn't say "obviously" the 422 with nitrous will make more power than a blown 382 in general.
<small>[ July 10, 2002, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: Rpm2800 ]</small>
<strong>... obviously more power from the 422 </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess maybe with the head lifting issues with many boosted ls1's , NOW a 422 may be be a better set up. At least a THIS POINT.
But i wouldn't say "obviously" the 422 with nitrous will make more power than a blown 382 in general.
<small>[ July 10, 2002, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: Rpm2800 ]</small>
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SJH:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Vortech blower is way undersized for even stock displacement heads/cam cars PLUS you will need a fully custom fuel system with dual pumps and rising rate regulator, 50# injectors and LS1edit programming.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chris with a little work I have made my g-trim flow enough air for about 670 crank ponies.
I may do a smidge of work on the diffuser and get it close to 700.
Good for around 600RWHP.
Don't matter if it's a 346 or 422. 600 is about the limit for the vortech G-trim in a ported form IMO.I would go for a bigger blower if you want more than 550RWHP without working it Like I have done.
But it's not that small if you know what you are doing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Steve</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">this is why I am having a custom Vortech T trim setup made(1200 CFM compared to G trim 800 CFM). I figure somewhere between 600-650 rwhp with a 382.
<small>[ July 10, 2002, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: Jackyl_30 ]</small>
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Vortech blower is way undersized for even stock displacement heads/cam cars PLUS you will need a fully custom fuel system with dual pumps and rising rate regulator, 50# injectors and LS1edit programming.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chris with a little work I have made my g-trim flow enough air for about 670 crank ponies.
I may do a smidge of work on the diffuser and get it close to 700.
Good for around 600RWHP.
Don't matter if it's a 346 or 422. 600 is about the limit for the vortech G-trim in a ported form IMO.I would go for a bigger blower if you want more than 550RWHP without working it Like I have done.
But it's not that small if you know what you are doing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Steve</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">this is why I am having a custom Vortech T trim setup made(1200 CFM compared to G trim 800 CFM). I figure somewhere between 600-650 rwhp with a 382.
<small>[ July 10, 2002, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: Jackyl_30 ]</small>
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown you can get 550 rwhp with a 382 and vortech I promise but it is very hard to tune. A all motor 422 is bad *** but it will cost more than the 382 by more than a vortech for sure. As far as the head lifting on blower I thing if you use cometic head gaskets and arp head stud you shouldn't have a problem. The vortech with 2.75 pulley I can only get 7psi that is with the belt slipping over 5600 rpms. If I had the cash I would have bought a 422 and still put the vortech on it but that is just me.
Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown You guys are sick. Power-adder 422ci and such...
I like the idea <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
I plan on 9s this fall with full weight.
Tony
I like the idea <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
I plan on 9s this fall with full weight.
Tony
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown Nineball, when are you going to hit that 434 with some boost?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Or how about a blower/nitrous combo?? <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
Or how about a blower/nitrous combo?? <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown Did someone say a 422 with 150 wet shot??
Ask me in about 2 weeks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
After that and auto/nitrous convertor conversion, might be capable of interesting track times. Probably fast enough to scare me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Ask me in about 2 weeks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
After that and auto/nitrous convertor conversion, might be capable of interesting track times. Probably fast enough to scare me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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Re: 422 juiced vs. 382 blown I say go with a 422 with a D-1 ATI blower instead of the vortech. I can't see a setup like that running anything over mid 9's for some reason. Or you can just give me the money to do it to my car instead <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
