Hey guys,
Going with a cam and leaning toward the T1. Please answer these questions for a '99 T/A M6 application.

1. Lope?
2. Driveability (bucking, surging, interior vibration?)
3. What RPM is the HP peak?
4. How hard is this cam on valve train?

Looking for someting streetable to keep stock rev limit and make 375 RWHP with lid, catback, LT's, and custom programming. What do you think?

Thanks,
-Nick

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by niphilli:
<strong>Hey guys,
Going with a cam and leaning toward the T1. Please answer these questions for a '99 T/A M6 application.

1. Lope?
2. Driveability (bucking, surging, interior vibration?)
3. What RPM is the HP peak?
4. How hard is this cam on valve train?

Looking for someting streetable to keep stock rev limit and make 375 RWHP with lid, catback, LT's, and custom programming. What do you think?

Thanks,
-Nick</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">lopes good... http://www.warpedspeed.com/misc/DriveIdle.mpg This was my old T1 but we put it in my buddys car, its through hooker LT's, an ORY, and corsa. Interior noise is loud if you have an ORY and borla. It surges as well at low speeds. I put down 390 with all the basic bolt ones when it was in my car.

 

T1 user comments:
Cam specs: T1
Duration at .050 intake/exhaust 221/221
maximum lift with 1.7 rockers- .558/.558
lobe separation- 112
Manufacturer- Lunati
Vendor- MTI
Your car type (auto/manual) - M6
displacement- 346
headwork? (yes/no) No
headers? (yes/no LT/med/shorty) Macs
na/force-fed/bottle-fed- NOS 5177
computer reprogrammed? (yes/no) No
throttle plate drilled? (size) No

Goals- (Street/street racing/drag/autoX/roadracing)
Street and Drag Racing..

Is it too aggressive/not aggressive enough/just right?

Just right for Stock heads

Lope- (stock,burble,lumpy,chaotic)

Quite Lumpy, you know a cam is in there..

Additional comments

Car will not start if heater / AC is turned on while trying to start

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Cam specs: T1
Duration at .050 intake/exhaust 221/221
maximum lift with 1.7 rockers- .558/.558
lobe separation- 112
Manufacturer- Lunati
Vendor- MTI/Thunder Racing
Your car type (auto/manual) - M6
displacement- 346
headwork? (yes/no) No
headers? (yes/no LT/med/shorty) Macs w/ off-road (mid-lengths)
na/force-fed/bottle-fed- n/a
computer reprogrammed? (yes/no) No
throttle plate drilled? (size) Yes

Goals- (Street/street racing/drag/autoX/roadracing)
A cam that drives well on the street, but kicks *** at the track.

Is it too aggressive/not aggressive enough/just right?

Just about right.

Lope- (stock,burble,lumpy,chaotic)

Pretty lumpy

Additional comments

I have had 0 problems in the 6 months I have had the cam. Car has not once stalled on me, even when I turn the A/C on. I am more than happy with it.

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Cam specs: T1
Duration at .050 intake/exhaust- 221/221
maximum lift with 1.7 rockers- .558 .558
lobe seperation-112
Manufacturer- Lunati
Vendor- MTI T1
Your car type (auto/manual)- A4
displacement- stock
headwork? (yes/no)- no
headers? (yes/no LT/med/shorty)- yes - MAC

na/force-fed/bottle-fed- NA/bottle
computer reprogrammed? (yes/no) No
throttle plate drilled? (size) yes - 1/4" for now

Goals- (Street/street racing/drag/autoX/roadracing) drag/street
Is it too aggressive/not aggressive enough/just right? pretty dang tame, good daily driver cam even for an A4 with the 112 LSA and no programming

Lope- (stock, burble, lumpy, chaotic) burble

Additional comments: will probably go with a bigger ARE designed cam later in the season

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Cam specs: T1
Duration at .050 intake/exhaust- 221/221
maximum lift with 1.7 rockers- 558/558
lobe separation- 112
Manufacturer- Lunati
Vendor-
Your car type (auto/manual)- M6
displacement- Stock
headwork? NO
headers? (yes/MAC's w/ Cats
na/
computer reprogrammed? (no)
throttle plate drilled? NO
Goals- (Street/street racing/drag)

Is it too aggressive/not aggressive enough/just right? JUST RIGHT

Lope- (burble, lumpy)

Additional comments: The idle is not near as aggressive as I thought. Very mellow if you ask me, I did not drill the hole, I see no need to.

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Cam specs: T1

Duration at .050 intake/exhaust- 221 /221
maximum lift with 1.7 rockers- .558 /.558
lobe separation- 112
Manufacturer Lunati

Vendor MTI
Your car type (auto/manual)- MN6

displacement- 346 c.i.

headwork? (yes/no)- YES, MTI Stage II
headers? (yes/no LT/med/shorty)- YES, Mac Mid Length w/Cats Ceramic Coated
na/force-fed/bottle-fed- N/A thru an LS6 intake

computer reprogrammed? (yes/no) YES
throttle plate drilled? (size) Drilled and Chamfered, size of hole is unknown.
Goals- Street/street racing/drag
Is it too aggressive/not aggressive enough/just right?
Lope- burble
Additional comments:

Asp Pulley, Borla Exhaust, MTI Lid, 3.73 Gears.

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Duration at .050 intake/exhaust- 221/221
maximum lift with 1.7 rockers- .558/.558
lobe separation- 112
Manufacturer- Lunati
Vendor- MTI
Your car type (auto/manual) - manual
Motor displacement- stock
headwork? (yes/no) yes
headers? (yes/no LT/med/shorty) no
na/force-fed/bottle-fed- na
computer reprogrammed? (yes/no) no
throttle plate drilled? (size) no

Goals- (Street/street racing/drag/autoX/roadracing) street

Is it too aggressive/not aggressive enough/just right? just right

Lope- (stock,burble,lumpy,chaotic) lumpy
Valve Springs used-CC941
RWHP-?
RWTQ-?
1/4 mile E.T-?
1/4 mile MPH-?

MUCH more cam info on my web page.....

 

The cam is awesome. I wish I would have kept it...

 

Please explain why you preferred the 221 vs your 226 XE-R cam. I'm really interested as to why?

 

My XE-R cam has no lope whatsoever.. Do not get me wrong.. Its a awesome stealth cam. My stock cam had more of a aggressive idle. You would only think I had headers on the car.. My heads and exhaust could be the main factor in my below 4krpm power loss between the 2 cams, but I was expecting the XE-R's faster ramps to make up for that.. The T1 was just a good all around cam.. It had a nasty little lope. It ran thru the gears like I had 4.10's back when I had 3.42's. It made awesome tq.. I am going to long tubes and a better catback system to see if that helps with my new h/c setup.. I am hoping this new setup just needs to breathe more. Now this XE-R cam has to be awesome in its own regards to get the horsepower #'s I have out of my weak heads.. I am changing to a reverse split soon.. So we will see if I can finally get the 420rwhp I was looking for in the first place.. I sure hope so with going to long tubes and changing my complete exhaust..

<small>[ August 27, 2002, 05:51 AM: Message edited by: VINCE ]</small>

 

Great info guys, keepem comini. Anyone want to talk more about surging, bucking, and interior vibration with say SLP LT's and Loudmouth.

-Nick

 

I have the b1 in my m6...its got a bit of lope..if you don't know its there you might miss it at least with just my catback right now.Will see if its more noticeable when I finish installing my tts this week and get my electric cutout on.Power seems excellent even without headers from 3000 up its a screamer and pulls all the way to the current 6600 hpp set redline.I drilled my tb out a bit too much I think..iac counts hit zero..my idle takes a bit to come down especially with air on.It doesnt stall though.I might just put a rivet in the tb hole and drill slightly smaller or try to tweak iac count with my reversed tb idle screw..or wait for ls1 edit to make things perfect.I sometimes wish I would have got a t1 as its more nasty sounding and would have a similar powerband.I think the ls1 top end and mid is great but the bottom end sucks bad compared to my old lt1 with 4.10 gears.I am hoping my tts will help bottom end and plan on 3.73s when I get a new 12 bolt hopefully next year and if I still don't have the bottom I want then guess its time for 383 stroker kit.and NOS and a supercharger..where will it end..who knows..LOL

 

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Car will not start if heater / AC is turned on while trying to start

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This never happened to me, even with stock heads and stock tuning.

Idle was not nearly lopey enough for me.

Very nice cam, very driveable, good mileage, great performance, zero problems. The dyno numbers in my sig were on the T1. No numbers yet on my new TR230/224.

 

i just had the mods listed below installed 2 weeks ago and i am very happy love the idle and the gas mileage is not a noticable difference and it pulls pretty hard and is very driveable and im awaiting a dyno tune session with ls-1 edit to make it perfect did i mention i LOVE the idle <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

My T1 cam will be for sale in about 6 weeks or so. MTI is building me a 408 motor so I have get a bigger cam for it.

Send me an email at tuanle@bmc.com if you are interested in the cam. I would like to get $300 shipped for it.

-Tuan

 

I think the T1 is a great all around cam I have a buddy that is running that cam as well but he has stock heads and 3.73 and is hitting mid 118's in the 1/4 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
I went with the T1 because my car is a daily and I was only wanting to run in 11.8s and my car is running the times I wanted.And the set up is almost 3yrs old and still pulling harder then ever plus I only have the HPP3 for tunning <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

plus my car made its peak power at 6000 RPM and I shift at 6400 <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />