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destroyed thunder cam Well I posted a little while ago about my timing chain snapping at 5500 + rpm's. Heres the damage list so you guys will get a could idea how important it is to change your chain when your doing the cam.
8 pistons ruined
16 valves bent like L's
3 lifters destroyed
1 thunder cam mangled, to the point 2 lobes where sheared flat.
All in all its about 6500 fix for me.
1 timing chain and gears destroyed
Well I am getting it bored,honed,blue printed and balanced for my new JE pistons. I bought jesel rockers, shruebak lifters, double roller chain and all new bolts and gaskets and bearings. It really sucks. But at least it will be pretty bullet proof when I am done. My question is my new pistons are already notched and I need a new cam. Whats the best cam I should go with. I got clearance because there notched so my milled heads are no longer a problem(or are they). So whats up cam junkies, whats the latest and greatest. Thanks
8 pistons ruined
16 valves bent like L's
3 lifters destroyed
1 thunder cam mangled, to the point 2 lobes where sheared flat.
All in all its about 6500 fix for me.
1 timing chain and gears destroyed
Well I am getting it bored,honed,blue printed and balanced for my new JE pistons. I bought jesel rockers, shruebak lifters, double roller chain and all new bolts and gaskets and bearings. It really sucks. But at least it will be pretty bullet proof when I am done. My question is my new pistons are already notched and I need a new cam. Whats the best cam I should go with. I got clearance because there notched so my milled heads are no longer a problem(or are they). So whats up cam junkies, whats the latest and greatest. Thanks
Re: destroyed thunder cam Sorry to hear about your misfortune. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
Sounds like you will have her fixed the right way.
Now, for the cam call Thunder racing they will hook you up with the best cam for your Hot Rod. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Tell them Coach sent ya. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
Good luck. <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />
Sounds like you will have her fixed the right way.
Now, for the cam call Thunder racing they will hook you up with the best cam for your Hot Rod. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Tell them Coach sent ya. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
Good luck. <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />
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Re: destroyed thunder cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ARE LS1:
<strong>How many miles were on your original timing chain?
Glad you are putting things back together right.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">5500 miles or so on the chain. I had the dowel pin slip out of the cam around 3000 so I had to open it up and when I did the bolts were half way out loose!!! So I applied some serious locktight to the bolts and the dowel pin and replaced the chain while I was there but I was a bonehead and put a new stock one on. On a side note had no trouble with the bolts or dowel pin with the locktight. Was fun getting the bolts of again with that locktight though!
<strong>How many miles were on your original timing chain?
Glad you are putting things back together right.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">5500 miles or so on the chain. I had the dowel pin slip out of the cam around 3000 so I had to open it up and when I did the bolts were half way out loose!!! So I applied some serious locktight to the bolts and the dowel pin and replaced the chain while I was there but I was a bonehead and put a new stock one on. On a side note had no trouble with the bolts or dowel pin with the locktight. Was fun getting the bolts of again with that locktight though!
Re: destroyed thunder cam Go for broke:
Comp XE-R 234/228 110 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Seriously, what are your goals? With a built bottom end you could go for a nice single pattern with good drivability and then spray it for the big power.
Comp XE-R 234/228 110 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Seriously, what are your goals? With a built bottom end you could go for a nice single pattern with good drivability and then spray it for the big power.
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Re: destroyed thunder cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ragtop 99:
<strong>Go for broke:
Comp XE-R 234/228 110 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Seriously, what are your goals? With a built bottom end you could go for a nice single pattern with good drivability and then spray it for the big power.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">well I have stock crank and rods but driveabilty is not a concern, I like a nasty street monster.
I am scared of nitrous for some reason.
<strong>Go for broke:
Comp XE-R 234/228 110 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Seriously, what are your goals? With a built bottom end you could go for a nice single pattern with good drivability and then spray it for the big power.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">well I have stock crank and rods but driveabilty is not a concern, I like a nasty street monster.
I am scared of nitrous for some reason.
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Re: destroyed thunder cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 5-liter-eater:
<strong>well I have stock crank and rods but driveabilty is not a concern, I like a nasty street monster.
I am scared of nitrous for some reason.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">sounds like you are looking at something similar to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> stock crank/rods...make sure to upgrade the rod bolts and oil pump <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
As far as cam... I'm running a 232/232 .574/.574 112 on XE lobes. Its pretty nasty and makes awesome power to boot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Good luck with the build up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
<strong>well I have stock crank and rods but driveabilty is not a concern, I like a nasty street monster.
I am scared of nitrous for some reason.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">sounds like you are looking at something similar to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> stock crank/rods...make sure to upgrade the rod bolts and oil pump <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
As far as cam... I'm running a 232/232 .574/.574 112 on XE lobes. Its pretty nasty and makes awesome power to boot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Good luck with the build up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: destroyed thunder cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fireball:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 5-liter-eater:
<strong>well I have stock crank and rods but driveabilty is not a concern, I like a nasty street monster.
I am scared of nitrous for some reason.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">sounds like you are looking at something similar to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> stock crank/rods...make sure to upgrade the rod bolts and oil pump <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
As far as cam... I'm running a 232/232 .574/.574 112 on XE lobes. Its pretty nasty and makes awesome power to boot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Good luck with the build up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good info thanks. What oil pump? Mines been solid and only has 13000 on it, I didnt think there was aftermarket ones or do you mean a ported one? Also where can I get the rod bolts? Thanks. You guys are a damn wealth of knowledge.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 5-liter-eater:
<strong>well I have stock crank and rods but driveabilty is not a concern, I like a nasty street monster.
I am scared of nitrous for some reason.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">sounds like you are looking at something similar to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> stock crank/rods...make sure to upgrade the rod bolts and oil pump <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
As far as cam... I'm running a 232/232 .574/.574 112 on XE lobes. Its pretty nasty and makes awesome power to boot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Good luck with the build up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good info thanks. What oil pump? Mines been solid and only has 13000 on it, I didnt think there was aftermarket ones or do you mean a ported one? Also where can I get the rod bolts? Thanks. You guys are a damn wealth of knowledge.
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Re: destroyed thunder cam I run ARP Pro2000 rod bolts (thunder sells them) or you can go with Katech rod bolts
http://www.katech-inc.com/
I am also running a Katech blueprinted oil pump (not listed on their site but they sell them for ~70 dollars <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
http://www.katech-inc.com/
I am also running a Katech blueprinted oil pump (not listed on their site but they sell them for ~70 dollars <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: destroyed thunder cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fireball:
<strong>I run ARP Pro2000 rod bolts (thunder sells them) or you can go with Katech rod bolts
http://www.katech-inc.com/
I am also running a Katech blueprinted oil pump (not listed on their site but they sell them for ~70 dollars <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ok I got the bolts, oil pump, and I decided on the TR230/224. Oil pump was 120. I gotta say Paul at thunder is a great guy. He has always gone the extra mile with me. I cant say enough good things about these guys. Thanks for all the help guys, I will let you know how it all turns out.
<strong>I run ARP Pro2000 rod bolts (thunder sells them) or you can go with Katech rod bolts
http://www.katech-inc.com/
I am also running a Katech blueprinted oil pump (not listed on their site but they sell them for ~70 dollars <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ok I got the bolts, oil pump, and I decided on the TR230/224. Oil pump was 120. I gotta say Paul at thunder is a great guy. He has always gone the extra mile with me. I cant say enough good things about these guys. Thanks for all the help guys, I will let you know how it all turns out.
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Re: destroyed thunder cam wow, that sux! is this a common thing thay happens to cars w/ heads and a cam??? i've got mine ordered from thunder(i agree, great people)and now you guys are making me nervous!!! <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
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Re: destroyed thunder cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MelloYellow:
<strong>What kinda clutch?
Did it break on a downshift?
2 words for all Heads/Cam setups:
'Jwis Kettin'</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cartek clutch. It broke on the 2 to 3 shift at about 5500 or so. I went with the slp double roller.
<strong>What kinda clutch?
Did it break on a downshift?
2 words for all Heads/Cam setups:
'Jwis Kettin'</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cartek clutch. It broke on the 2 to 3 shift at about 5500 or so. I went with the slp double roller.