View Poll Results: T-Rex or MS4
T-Rex
87
36.86%
MS4
122
51.69%
Custom (explain)
27
11.44%
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T-Rex or MS4
Originally Posted by tillery
how bout a vindicator cam from vengance, I have a MS3-and looking to change to this
when everybody is saying "cam only".....I am a little confused about this one, who would put a cam in without a set of heads, or is that a given that "cam only" means they have heads too...sorry if that is a dumb question
Originally Posted by REDHOtTransAM
when everybody is saying "cam only".....I am a little confused about this one, who would put a cam in without a set of heads, or is that a given that "cam only" means they have heads too...sorry if that is a dumb question
Originally Posted by Phase1GSR
If you put a MS4 in a LS1 and wanted to keep the stock heads, what would you have to change? Just the springs or what else? Sorry for the newbie question.
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Originally Posted by Phase1GSR
If you put a MS4 in a LS1 and wanted to keep the stock heads, what would you have to change? Just the springs or what else? Sorry for the newbie question.
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Originally Posted by chewy99ws6
I have been thinking about this for awhile, I have the MS3 in my auto WS6 and I love it, I have the 228R in my M6 WS6, I want to know what ya'll think is better for my M6, T-Rex or MS4, I have a 12-bolt w/3.73 gears, but I am replacing it w/ a 9" w/ 4.10 gears, car has LS6 stage 3 heads, full-bolt-ons, and forged 346 and 228R for now. What kind of power increase should I see with either of these cams, what would be my estimated HP of both be. Sorry for all the questions I just have been wandering for awhile, which one would net me the best time in the 1/4. And would I have to flycut. I tried doing a search but it has been down for me all night
Originally Posted by BOWTIE
Have you made a decision yet? I am a little confused by your post though. Here you state you have a forged 346 which would indicate forged pistons which as far as I know all have valve reliefs, but later when someone asked if you had valve reliefs you stated they were just flat tops (implying no reliefs). First off, you would need to flycut with either one of these cams with the larger valves, secondly both of these cams would benefit tremendously from some increased compression via some .040 head gaskets and head mill. From there if you are still torn between these 2 cams, I would suggest the MS4 for an LS6 intake, or the TREX for a 90/90 intake. Of course this is just what I have concluded from some of the reading I have done on this forum.
This one is my car
this one is my buddies car that my old cam and vavletrain is going in.
Finished the rest of the car and fired her up at 12:31 A.M this morning and holy crap that cam is sick as hell, my friend tuned it for me this morning and all I can say is "WOW" that cam pulls like a SOB. I love it.
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Originally Posted by Phynix
you should put the 12 bolt back in, 9 inch is only stronger when its spooled, otherwise the 12 is stronger
Ive been very happy with my 228r, but i have yet to take it to the track.
Though on the street and fooling aroun it is **** loads of fun.
I wont be doing heads til I get a new rear end.. and i guess with all the issues of seeing the threads on 12"'s breaking..im leaning towards 9"
Though on the street and fooling aroun it is **** loads of fun.
I wont be doing heads til I get a new rear end.. and i guess with all the issues of seeing the threads on 12"'s breaking..im leaning towards 9"
Originally Posted by Dip Stick
Ive been very happy with my 228r, but i have yet to take it to the track.
Though on the street and fooling aroun it is **** loads of fun.
I wont be doing heads til I get a new rear end.. and i guess with all the issues of seeing the threads on 12"'s breaking..im leaning towards 9"
Though on the street and fooling aroun it is **** loads of fun.
I wont be doing heads til I get a new rear end.. and i guess with all the issues of seeing the threads on 12"'s breaking..im leaning towards 9"
As far as I can tell, the Strange 12 bolt is as good as anything for us.
I love how people make comments about the TRex making top end power, you guys really have no idea. Granted, my car is an auto, but I was within 10rwhp of peak from 5500-6500. The cam peaked at 6600-6700, so I figure that the optimal shift would be around 7000rpm. Now, where does the MS4 peak at? I would imagine it would peak right around the same area. I don't consider this a peaky cam because the graph was smooth, and it made solid power throughout the powerband.
I can't tell you how many people told me my cam would peak at 7000 or higher. If you are at all serious about racing, you will spin it to this rpm anyway. I did it for nearly 2 years wihtout issues, and daily driving before I had issues with the rod bolts and bearings.
I can't tell you how many people told me my cam would peak at 7000 or higher. If you are at all serious about racing, you will spin it to this rpm anyway. I did it for nearly 2 years wihtout issues, and daily driving before I had issues with the rod bolts and bearings.
Originally Posted by CamaroSS
I love how people make comments about the TRex making top end power, you guys really have no idea. Granted, my car is an auto, but I was within 10rwhp of peak from 5500-6500. The cam peaked at 6600-6700, so I figure that the optimal shift would be around 7000rpm. Now, where does the MS4 peak at? I would imagine it would peak right around the same area. I don't consider this a peaky cam because the graph was smooth, and it made solid power throughout the powerband.
I can't tell you how many people told me my cam would peak at 7000 or higher. If you are at all serious about racing, you will spin it to this rpm anyway. I did it for nearly 2 years wihtout issues, and daily driving before I had issues with the rod bolts and bearings.
I can't tell you how many people told me my cam would peak at 7000 or higher. If you are at all serious about racing, you will spin it to this rpm anyway. I did it for nearly 2 years wihtout issues, and daily driving before I had issues with the rod bolts and bearings.