Dyno Queens in here :)
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Dyno Queens in here :) Those of you with heads/cam cars that dyno abnormally high post your 1/4 mile times here. Also post your raceweight if you have it. A4 or m6? This should make for good comaprisons. Make sure to include the mph.
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) I am not a dyno queen <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
404RWHP and 400RWTQ
Times in sig, raceweight 3425 pounds. DA was ~750 feet. 4.10 gears and 6 speed on ET streets. 6-8 mph crosswind.
11.3x coming soon...
Best ever mph 122.60mph
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404RWHP and 400RWTQ
Times in sig, raceweight 3425 pounds. DA was ~750 feet. 4.10 gears and 6 speed on ET streets. 6-8 mph crosswind.
11.3x coming soon...
Best ever mph 122.60mph
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) Did someone call my name <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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Cartek S2X H/C/VIG3800/4.56
RW 3590lbs 11.17/1.47/120.68/DA -250FT
440RWHP/400RWTQ
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Cartek S2X H/C/VIG3800/4.56
RW 3590lbs 11.17/1.47/120.68/DA -250FT
440RWHP/400RWTQ
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) Guess I'm in this category since I've yet to run a good number due to other problems <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>446rwhp/400rwtq, 10.87@127.1 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No other details? lol. Nice numbers though.
<strong>446rwhp/400rwtq, 10.87@127.1 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No other details? lol. Nice numbers though.
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 4mulaJoe:
<strong>I'd also like to see the numbers from the cam only cars hittin 400rwhp. Thanks guys.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">11.48@115.92 on a spinning 1.64 60' in the Memphis heat this summer. Density Alitude was 2400' and raceweight was 3425.
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<strong>I'd also like to see the numbers from the cam only cars hittin 400rwhp. Thanks guys.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">11.48@115.92 on a spinning 1.64 60' in the Memphis heat this summer. Density Alitude was 2400' and raceweight was 3425.
Jason
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) These numbers say nothing. You have no DA specified, you didnt ask for gearing, you didn't ask about suspension, didn't ask what track, etc.
390rwhp
12.7@115, 2.2 60'
3420weight
390rwhp
12.7@115, 2.2 60'
3420weight
10-09-2002, 11:21 AM
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) Forgot to mention windspeed and direction too!
20 MPH Headwind, Mid Michigan Motorplex
Actual altitude 700', DA unknown
3700# Raceweight
12.38 @ 115 1.8 60'
20 MPH Headwind, Mid Michigan Motorplex
Actual altitude 700', DA unknown
3700# Raceweight
12.38 @ 115 1.8 60'
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) MMS heads/cam, A4, 4.10, TP4400, 3220 weight, 1000' DA. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jmX:
<strong>These numbers say nothing. You have no DA specified, you didnt ask for gearing, you didn't ask about suspension, didn't ask what track, etc.
390rwhp
12.7@115, 2.2 60'
3420weight</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They say something to me. BTW, you left out a million other variables. I just a want a good idea of what these different combos are running.
<strong>These numbers say nothing. You have no DA specified, you didnt ask for gearing, you didn't ask about suspension, didn't ask what track, etc.
390rwhp
12.7@115, 2.2 60'
3420weight</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They say something to me. BTW, you left out a million other variables. I just a want a good idea of what these different combos are running.
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) Terry: why dont you say its a trailer car. The way you sound is that you only got heads and cam. Tell the rest. No exhaust, no interior. Tell them detail so they would know that your not a street car.
4mulaJoe: Pulled 453/430 only 500 miles on it. I got custom built 370ci. Car weight at 3650 me in it. on full street trim no slick no weight reduction, car ran 12.5@120mph on 2.2 60' spinning 1st, 2nd and 3rd. And that car is my daily driver I go school, work, and even cruis at night with the t-tops off
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4mulaJoe: Pulled 453/430 only 500 miles on it. I got custom built 370ci. Car weight at 3650 me in it. on full street trim no slick no weight reduction, car ran 12.5@120mph on 2.2 60' spinning 1st, 2nd and 3rd. And that car is my daily driver I go school, work, and even cruis at night with the t-tops off
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 4mulaJoe:
They say something to me. BTW, you left out a million other variables. I just a want a good idea of what these different combos are running.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So what does mine say to you?
If I haven't said it before, I'll say it again, 1/4 mile times mean jack **** for comparing combos unless you know every detail about how and where the run was made. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
They say something to me. BTW, you left out a million other variables. I just a want a good idea of what these different combos are running.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So what does mine say to you?
If I haven't said it before, I'll say it again, 1/4 mile times mean jack **** for comparing combos unless you know every detail about how and where the run was made. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) So, according to your opinion it would be pointless to even try to compare times on the internet. That would go for dyno numbers too. I guess everybody should just ignore numbers they did not see themselves. You aren't going to get everyone to right a book about the conditions they ran there times in.
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 4mulaJoe:
<strong>So, according to your opinion it would be pointless to even try to compare times on the internet. That would go for dyno numbers too. I guess everybody should just ignore numbers they did not see themselves. You aren't going to get everyone to right a book about the conditions they ran there times in.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My opinion is, DYNO numbers are a lot fairer to compare than 1/4 mile times.
Drop my engine into a stripped out F-body with sloppy *** suspension, big non-daily driver tires on nappy looking 15" rims with 4.10 gears, drive it like you stole it (AT HRP none the less), run an 11.4. Go to the dyno, dyno 390rwhp.
OR....leave it in my car. Slammed C5 2" off the ground, 18" chrome rims with normal street tires, leave the line at 900rpms and easily shift using the stock clutch, finishing banging the rev limiter in 3rd for the last 100 feet of the track and run a 12.7. Go to the dyno, dyno 390rwhp.
ET is so much more about traction and gearing. There are no "dyno tricks" to affect numbers THAT much when using SAE correction. Dyno's seem to vary 5% between places, track times can vary by HUGE amounts just depending on the car's setup. The heads/cam combo is the least of the components unless you know the suspension, gearing, traction, how hard the driver was launching the car, if he was racing at HRP or racing in Denver, etc.
ET's mean jack squat for picking heads/cam.
<strong>So, according to your opinion it would be pointless to even try to compare times on the internet. That would go for dyno numbers too. I guess everybody should just ignore numbers they did not see themselves. You aren't going to get everyone to right a book about the conditions they ran there times in.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My opinion is, DYNO numbers are a lot fairer to compare than 1/4 mile times.
Drop my engine into a stripped out F-body with sloppy *** suspension, big non-daily driver tires on nappy looking 15" rims with 4.10 gears, drive it like you stole it (AT HRP none the less), run an 11.4. Go to the dyno, dyno 390rwhp.
OR....leave it in my car. Slammed C5 2" off the ground, 18" chrome rims with normal street tires, leave the line at 900rpms and easily shift using the stock clutch, finishing banging the rev limiter in 3rd for the last 100 feet of the track and run a 12.7. Go to the dyno, dyno 390rwhp.
ET is so much more about traction and gearing. There are no "dyno tricks" to affect numbers THAT much when using SAE correction. Dyno's seem to vary 5% between places, track times can vary by HUGE amounts just depending on the car's setup. The heads/cam combo is the least of the components unless you know the suspension, gearing, traction, how hard the driver was launching the car, if he was racing at HRP or racing in Denver, etc.
ET's mean jack squat for picking heads/cam.
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jmX:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 4mulaJoe:
<strong>So, according to your opinion it would be pointless to even try to compare times on the internet. That would go for dyno numbers too. I guess everybody should just ignore numbers they did not see themselves. You aren't going to get everyone to right a book about the conditions they ran there times in.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My opinion is, DYNO numbers are a lot fairer to compare than 1/4 mile times.
Drop my engine into a stripped out F-body with sloppy *** suspension, big non-daily driver tires on nappy looking 15" rims with 4.10 gears, drive it like you stole it (AT HRP none the less), run an 11.4. Go to the dyno, dyno 390rwhp.
OR....leave it in my car. Slammed C5 2" off the ground, 18" chrome rims with normal street tires, leave the line at 900rpms and easily shift using the stock clutch, finishing banging the rev limiter in 3rd for the last 100 feet of the track and run a 12.7. Go to the dyno, dyno 390rwhp.
ET is so much more about traction and gearing. There are no "dyno tricks" to affect numbers THAT much when using SAE correction. Dyno's seem to vary 5% between places, track times can vary by HUGE amounts just depending on the car's setup. The heads/cam combo is the least of the components unless you know the suspension, gearing, traction, how hard the driver was launching the car, if he was racing at HRP or racing in Denver, etc.
ET's mean jack squat for picking heads/cam.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sounds to me like you have some insecurities about your slow ET <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Just let people post the numbers for people to make an educated judgement from.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 4mulaJoe:
<strong>So, according to your opinion it would be pointless to even try to compare times on the internet. That would go for dyno numbers too. I guess everybody should just ignore numbers they did not see themselves. You aren't going to get everyone to right a book about the conditions they ran there times in.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My opinion is, DYNO numbers are a lot fairer to compare than 1/4 mile times.
Drop my engine into a stripped out F-body with sloppy *** suspension, big non-daily driver tires on nappy looking 15" rims with 4.10 gears, drive it like you stole it (AT HRP none the less), run an 11.4. Go to the dyno, dyno 390rwhp.
OR....leave it in my car. Slammed C5 2" off the ground, 18" chrome rims with normal street tires, leave the line at 900rpms and easily shift using the stock clutch, finishing banging the rev limiter in 3rd for the last 100 feet of the track and run a 12.7. Go to the dyno, dyno 390rwhp.
ET is so much more about traction and gearing. There are no "dyno tricks" to affect numbers THAT much when using SAE correction. Dyno's seem to vary 5% between places, track times can vary by HUGE amounts just depending on the car's setup. The heads/cam combo is the least of the components unless you know the suspension, gearing, traction, how hard the driver was launching the car, if he was racing at HRP or racing in Denver, etc.
ET's mean jack squat for picking heads/cam.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sounds to me like you have some insecurities about your slow ET <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Just let people post the numbers for people to make an educated judgement from.
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 4mulaJoe:
<strong>So, according to your opinion it would be pointless to even try to compare times on the internet. That would go for dyno numbers too. I guess everybody should just ignore numbers they did not see themselves. You aren't going to get everyone to right a book about the conditions they ran there times in.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No everyone should not ignore numbers, but they should take them with a grain of salt like jmX is saying.
<strong>So, according to your opinion it would be pointless to even try to compare times on the internet. That would go for dyno numbers too. I guess everybody should just ignore numbers they did not see themselves. You aren't going to get everyone to right a book about the conditions they ran there times in.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No everyone should not ignore numbers, but they should take them with a grain of salt like jmX is saying.
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Terry: why dont you say its a trailer car. The way you sound is that you only got heads and cam. Tell the rest. No exhaust, no interior. Tell them detail so they would know that your not a street car.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">??? I drive the car all the time. That day I had my pass seat out, and was running dynomax bullet mufflers. I have all other interior including a cage, carpet, panels, back seats, etc. I used a trailer when I ran 10.87 (dynomax mufflers are cop magnets) but the month before when I ran 10.98 I drove the car 150 miles to the track and back. In fact I'm driving out tommorow to Irwindale (65 miles) to test my new tranny/stall out. Why don't you come out and test that 370ci motor out? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
EDIT: Just saw the 12.5 et. Man I've seen mostly stock FBodies run quicker than that. Get some real heads on that setup. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ October 09, 2002, 12:21 PM: Message edited by: Terry Burger ]</small>
Terry: why dont you say its a trailer car. The way you sound is that you only got heads and cam. Tell the rest. No exhaust, no interior. Tell them detail so they would know that your not a street car.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">??? I drive the car all the time. That day I had my pass seat out, and was running dynomax bullet mufflers. I have all other interior including a cage, carpet, panels, back seats, etc. I used a trailer when I ran 10.87 (dynomax mufflers are cop magnets) but the month before when I ran 10.98 I drove the car 150 miles to the track and back. In fact I'm driving out tommorow to Irwindale (65 miles) to test my new tranny/stall out. Why don't you come out and test that 370ci motor out? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
EDIT: Just saw the 12.5 et. Man I've seen mostly stock FBodies run quicker than that. Get some real heads on that setup. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ October 09, 2002, 12:21 PM: Message edited by: Terry Burger ]</small>
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Re: Dyno Queens in here :) JmX that is silly.
I have seen dyno differences of 15RWHP on the same car within a couple of days on the same dyno. (Just due to weather changes nothing else and that is corrected!)
ET/mph when given with raceweight, DA and wind, gearing, tranny type is a MUCH more accurate way of telling if a combo is making good power.
I wont even get into the discrepancies of comparing between different dynos LOL!
Chris
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I have seen dyno differences of 15RWHP on the same car within a couple of days on the same dyno. (Just due to weather changes nothing else and that is corrected!)
ET/mph when given with raceweight, DA and wind, gearing, tranny type is a MUCH more accurate way of telling if a combo is making good power.
I wont even get into the discrepancies of comparing between different dynos LOL!
Chris
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