The "recipe" to 500 rwhp with heads and cam.
07-04-2007, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Specialized
Patrick, I see you no longer have a stock rotating assembly. Can you shed some light/give some insight on whether this (high compression) can be done on a stock shortblock with success? Not everyone looking to make 500/looking for a high hp reliable combo can justify building a forged bottom end only to run a totally n/a setup.
My true question being: How likely is it that a shortblock with good compression (all cylinders within 1.5% of each other), and higher mileage (mine has 80k on it) make similar power to a forged rotating assembly (which presumably is actually a bit heavier, but you're adding significant strength to it)? Hell- would a stock assembly with notched pistons to account for the added lift cam/milled heads make **dare I say** more power?
My true question being: How likely is it that a shortblock with good compression (all cylinders within 1.5% of each other), and higher mileage (mine has 80k on it) make similar power to a forged rotating assembly (which presumably is actually a bit heavier, but you're adding significant strength to it)? Hell- would a stock assembly with notched pistons to account for the added lift cam/milled heads make **dare I say** more power?
07-09-2007, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Asmodeus
What do you think this combo would make on a mustang dyno?
Originally Posted by Mia
you should fab up some of those "Y" pipes and sell them
07-09-2007, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gooch06
so is there any way that i can see these numbers with an a4 ???? with or with out a stall???
Originally Posted by 98Aggie
around 440rwhp
07-09-2007, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Asmodeus
No. An A4 will not break 500 with that combo if an M6 barely did.
you think he would lose 60hp moving to a mustang dyno from a dynojet? I know dynojet's are very "friendly" dyno's, but you think they really read 60hp high?
you think he would lose 60hp moving to a mustang dyno from a dynojet? I know dynojet's are very "friendly" dyno's, but you think they really read 60hp high?
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2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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07-09-2007, 07:08 PM
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Patrick,any idea how much power I should expect out of that 383 you cam'd for me?
The cam in question was 236/242 .615/.612 111+2 XFI.
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I have a bad clutch & couldn't do any WOT tuning..Just part throttle/driveability/idle stuff....But man does that motor run GOOD from what I can see.
Torque everywhere.
The last step will be a ported FAST
The cam in question was 236/242 .615/.612 111+2 XFI.
Mod list below.
I have a bad clutch & couldn't do any WOT tuning..Just part throttle/driveability/idle stuff....But man does that motor run GOOD from what I can see.
Torque everywhere.
The last step will be a ported FAST
07-09-2007, 10:02 PM
#136
Originally Posted by BYE RICE
Patrick,any idea how much power I should expect out of that 383 you cam'd for me?
The cam in question was 236/242 .615/.612 111+2 XFI.
Mod list below.
I have a bad clutch & couldn't do any WOT tuning..Just part throttle/driveability/idle stuff....But man does that motor run GOOD from what I can see.
Torque everywhere.
The last step will be a ported FAST
The cam in question was 236/242 .615/.612 111+2 XFI.
Mod list below.
I have a bad clutch & couldn't do any WOT tuning..Just part throttle/driveability/idle stuff....But man does that motor run GOOD from what I can see.
Torque everywhere.
The last step will be a ported FAST
Can't wait to see your results.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
07-09-2007, 10:42 PM
#137
Patrick....havent posted in a while and i LOVE this tread..*my vote for sticky* but do you have a heads/cam package for sale to get that magic 500 na number? and how much does a properly ported FAST 90 intake run? the guy who ports them...any idea what he charges? and or will you be listing a specific part by number Recipe for this build? thanks in advance...
07-10-2007, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
There is no 500rwhp H/C package.
It is the whole motor package, from bolt ons to internal.
It is the whole motor package, from bolt ons to internal.
It takes a lot of attention to the details and peripherals to reach the 500RWHP barrier with a 346Ci...with a complete reliability of course!!!
Christian
07-10-2007, 10:07 AM
#140
The key to 500 RWHP from a 5.7 is Tony Mamo porting your AFR 205's & FAST intake,& Patrick G setting up your cam numbers, finding as much "free HP" as possible,good exhaust design,& having a really well-built shortblock(not a 100k mile stocker)..& putting it through an M6 & a stock geared 10 bolt.
You're probably not going to get there just by bolting up off-the shelf cams & heads & have it be as streetable as Patricks car appears to be.
I found it fascinating how so much attention was paid to flame quench with the head set up & how this allowed such high SCR to still use pump gas..That was good stuff.
You're probably not going to get there just by bolting up off-the shelf cams & heads & have it be as streetable as Patricks car appears to be.
I found it fascinating how so much attention was paid to flame quench with the head set up & how this allowed such high SCR to still use pump gas..That was good stuff.
Last edited by BYE RICE; 07-10-2007 at 04:41 PM.