is this cam to radical?
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is this cam to radical? custom grind 230/236 112lsa .581/.590 is this a good cam for a stock 2000 ws6 m6 with a header swap. i have the patriot dual valve spring kit going in, and hardened pushrods. this will be an open header set up with a custom tune as well. will the idle be to choppy, or a mediocre lope? what kind of power should i expect to the wheels?
Yes that cam will have a pretty nice lope to it by the looks of the lift and duration and LSA.
you will apprx have 9* of overlap on that cam which is pretty good and wont be shaking the car or anything but it will be noticeable.
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Just for reference, the MS4 has 17.5* of overlap on a 11.5 LSA.
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you will apprx have 9* of overlap on that cam which is pretty good and wont be shaking the car or anything but it will be noticeable.
.Just for reference, the MS4 has 17.5* of overlap on a 11.5 LSA.
.. that cam would like more supporting mods to work together better with your combo, and more static compression in the engine also. Like heads, intake, t/b, bolt ons, etc.... Expect gains after 3300k+ and pulling to 6400k. Power wise, you should put down 385+rwhp easy.
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yeah i have long tube headers being swapped along with the cam. looks like for now i will be going with no cats or muffler so that should certainly free up the exhaust. as for intake i will do later down the road, i'm running, no ran out of money about $1000 dollars ago.
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so you would do the cam and header swap last? i was going to do the supporting mods after cam/header swap mostly because i can come out of my pocket to do those. the cam and header swap is running me almost $3000.00. most of the other mods i know i can do myself and aren't nearly as expensive.
get all your bolt ons like stated then get the cam and get it tuned once and call it a day...that sounds like a really good cam...i would stay away from open headers if it is going to be street driven just get a cutout if you like the sounds and performance...
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1. cam/header swap=370-380rwhp+supporting mods=420ish
2. all supporting mods=370-380rwhp+cam/header swap=420ish
is that kind of in the ball park?
and as far as pointless to the cam/header swap, why is making 370-380rwhp pointless? i agree ls6 intake, tb, lid and all the doo dads but the doo dads can hold off because i can do all that along the way out of my pocket. basically i wont have the money to do the cam header swap for a very long time and the supporting mods i can do on a week to week or month to month basis out of my own pocket. kind of hard for me to just come up with 2-3000.00 dollars at once.
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ok whats going on with the open header idea? i have a custom tuner tuning the car is that not going to be enough? i mean i wanted to put high flow cats on it but as i stated before my money has come to an end. the performance shop suggested going with high flows but said he could tune it and run fine no problem without them. this car is not a daily driver just a weekend toy.
ok whats going on with the open header idea? i have a custom tuner tuning the car is that not going to be enough? i mean i wanted to put high flow cats on it but as i stated before my money has come to an end. the performance shop suggested going with high flows but said he could tune it and run fine no problem without them. this car is not a daily driver just a weekend toy.
to answer why everyone is telling to go bolt ons first then cam...here is the only reason why...you get a cam and maybe headers, you are going to have to get it tuned most likely $400ish...then you decide to get an ls6 intake, p&p tb, lid, FTRA (definitely a must adds at least 10hp, but that is a different thread), 25% UD pulley, maybe 85mm Maf...so what is the problem well to get the most out of all of these you are going to need another tune...which is another $400...so why pay for two tunes is the way i look at it...
that is why i tried to get every mod i wanted bolt on before i put the cam in and got it tuned...just my take on it...
i'm not understanding this, if you do cam first or last your results will be the same in the end. the way i look at it is like this.
1. cam/header swap=370-380rwhp+supporting mods=420ish
2. all supporting mods=370-380rwhp+cam/header swap=420ish
is that kind of in the ball park?
and as far as pointless to the cam/header swap, why is making 370-380rwhp pointless? i agree ls6 intake, tb, lid and all the doo dads but the doo dads can hold off because i can do all that along the way out of my pocket. basically i wont have the money to do the cam header swap for a very long time and the supporting mods i can do on a week to week or month to month basis out of my own pocket. kind of hard for me to just come up with 2-3000.00 dollars at once.
1. cam/header swap=370-380rwhp+supporting mods=420ish
2. all supporting mods=370-380rwhp+cam/header swap=420ish
is that kind of in the ball park?
and as far as pointless to the cam/header swap, why is making 370-380rwhp pointless? i agree ls6 intake, tb, lid and all the doo dads but the doo dads can hold off because i can do all that along the way out of my pocket. basically i wont have the money to do the cam header swap for a very long time and the supporting mods i can do on a week to week or month to month basis out of my own pocket. kind of hard for me to just come up with 2-3000.00 dollars at once.
Not a chance in hell that you would make 370-380 with just boltons. Expect 385-395 for all boltons plus the cam. Anything over that I would ecstatic with. Just my .02