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Old 05-10-2008, 01:18 AM
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Default Most powerful cam for Ls1 with power under the curve???

I've got an 04 GTO and so far I'm looking at.....

Trex

Vindicator

HPE S-Cam

HPE MegaDeath

LG G5X-2


The car is an M6 if that helps any.....I want the most HP and TQ numbers I can get out of it can only....For now I will be doing coated LT Headers, true dual mandrel bent 3" x-pipe, cold air, and a tune of course.....shortly, i will be getting a set of 243 heads, but they will be stock.....I'm kinda on a budget here.
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Power under the curve and the cams you have listed are two different things. Power under the curve would be a TR224
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Call those cam dealers and pick their brains. They will tell you what fits your application best. I know the TRex is a big cam that likes RPMs and goes for a max HP number versus under the curve
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A custom cam...PM Patrick G or Predator Z. They'll spec you a cam designed exactly for your needs.
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Custom's probably your best bet. My Futral off the shelf cam, however, made great midrange torque and power.
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Mainly I'm aiming for 400+rwhp and would like to have a great torque range to go along with it......I've got a GTO, so I've got alot of weight to carry around! Lol.
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LOL if your aiming for 400+, 1st off you def don't need that big of a cam and 2nd off a TREX cam will put you over 500+ in many cases. I've been in a car with that cam and its massive, a MUST tune cam. With a full exhaust, intake, trex, and a good tune you should easily be over 500+rwhp, those are 10second cams. If you want 400 Id look at something as small as even a 224 or 228 with a full exhaust people usually hit 400 give or take a few 10hp.
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I thought this was going to be a good thread, then I saw the cam list. lol
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Also.. if your on a budget I wouldn't recommend that cam, you'll need a clutch, suspension, WIDE tires, and not to mention the fuel economy that comes with it. Are you using this car as a daily driver or just track car?
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Originally Posted by fccs
LOL if your aiming for 400+, 1st off you def don't need that big of a cam and 2nd off a TREX cam will put you over 500+ in many cases. I've been in a car with that cam and its massive, a MUST tune cam. With a full exhaust, intake, trex, and a good tune you should easily be over 500+rwhp, those are 10second cams. If you want 400 Id look at something as small as even a 224 or 228 with a full exhaust people usually hit 400 give or take a few 10hp.

You have no idea what your talking about.
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Originally Posted by fccs
LOL if your aiming for 400+, 1st off you def don't need that big of a cam and 2nd off a TREX cam will put you over 500+ in many cases. I've been in a car with that cam and its massive, a MUST tune cam. With a full exhaust, intake, trex, and a good tune you should easily be over 500+rwhp, those are 10second cams. If you want 400 Id look at something as small as even a 224 or 228 with a full exhaust people usually hit 400 give or take a few 10hp.

WTH??? I really wonder where some ppl like this dream up there information sometimes. There is no such thing as a "10 sec cam" or an "11 sec cam" etc. No cam only will net you 500RWHP, you have no clue what your talking about, and besides the post isnt about peak HP he is asking about under the curb power. I would probably suggest something like the TR224 or a 230 cam.
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Originally Posted by fccs
LOL if your aiming for 400+, 1st off you def don't need that big of a cam and 2nd off a TREX cam will put you over 500+ in many cases. I've been in a car with that cam and its massive, a MUST tune cam. With a full exhaust, intake, trex, and a good tune you should easily be over 500+rwhp, those are 10second cams. If you want 400 Id look at something as small as even a 224 or 228 with a full exhaust people usually hit 400 give or take a few 10hp.
I just remembered why I stay out of this section most of the time..
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Wow.....Never thought I'd get a response as stupid as that. I guess I'll just keep searching through people's dyno numbers.
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maybe I can help. I have a fully modified c5 frc that put down 490 rwhp 445 rwtq. I am running afr 205's milled to 59 cc , g5x3 vII cam, ported Fast 90, pro longtube headers, ud pully and ewp. The cam I have with the supporting mods made 360 rwtq at 2800 rpms. Then from 3000 it starts climbing fast. I have tons of torque everywhere. Talk to LG Motorsports about your build and get one of there cams, or have them do a custom one for your application. Good luck.

BTW The guy telling you about 500 hp cam, etc etc, I don't think I'd trust his advice.
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I too have a 04 gto. my first cam was a comp xr281 and was very happy with it. ran it with stock heads and long tube's. ran the 918 spring's and wound it to 6800 all the time.

Then went to a tr224 when i put 59cc afr's on just due to ptvc worrie's. I hated that cam after the xr281

Then went to a xer 281 and i was pretty happy but now going to a xfi/xer 242/244 cam

My car is a auto but i don't think you can go wrong with the xr281 for the first cam it is 228/230 @.050 .571/.573 112+2 xr lobe's so not too much valve train noise

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Leaning towards MegaDeath, but need to see some dyno graphs to be sure
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Originally Posted by MontereyLS1
Leaning towards MegaDeath, but need to see some dyno graphs to be sure
What makes you lean towards the MegaDeath cam VS say one LGM's x series or Vengeance racings VRX/Vindicator cams ??
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My custom 210/230 .550/.559 112LSA made power EVERYWHERE
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TR224 or a 224/228 if you want to stick it in there and make good power even without a great tune. You can get more up top with a bigger cam, but if you're not into racing I would personally pick the above and let your valvetrain live a little longer. No need to go crazy on the cam for a primary vehicle.
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Originally Posted by fccs
LOL if your aiming for 400+, 1st off you def don't need that big of a cam and 2nd off a TREX cam will put you over 500+ in many cases. I've been in a car with that cam and its massive, a MUST tune cam. With a full exhaust, intake, trex, and a good tune you should easily be over 500+rwhp, those are 10second cams. If you want 400 Id look at something as small as even a 224 or 228 with a full exhaust people usually hit 400 give or take a few 10hp.
500+rwhp??? If that was a 10 sec cam, then why would anyone buy anything else? The vendors might as well pack it up and forget designing or selling any other cams than the T-Rex
Originally Posted by MontereyLS1
Leaning towards MegaDeath, but need to see some dyno graphs to be sure
Yeah. you might wanna search the dyno section for that cam. It seems thats not the best choice for "under the curve" power.
Originally Posted by Jantzer98SS
TR224 or a 224/228 if you want to stick it in there and make good power even without a great tune. You can get more up top with a bigger cam, but if you're not into racing I would personally pick the above and let your valvetrain live a little longer. No need to go crazy on the cam for a primary vehicle.
Thats pretty good advice right there! You're gonna get the best under the curve power from something smaller than the cams you listed. My cam is only a .525 lift cam and I'm making 393rwhp w/ a pretty flat tq curve.


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