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Old 07-27-2008, 05:22 PM
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Can anyone give me information about this? Found it on LS1Sounds and it sounds really cool.

I have no idea what the numbers mean and whatnot, so I'd just like to know the basics, like is it a big cam or small and whatever.

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By todays standards its a small cam. As for sounds "114lsa" is the chop to put it in lame mans terms. Make sure you do some reading on this forum about cams if your even thinking about putting a cam in a car. Make sure you understand whats a Daily driver to you and NOT someone else. My thoughts of a DD are something completly different to another. Hope this answers your question.
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Well as long as it wouldn't murder my gas mileage I'm fine with it.

So the higher the LSA the more choppy the sound?
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lower LSA = more shoppy sound
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Well could someone recommend me a cam (NOT BIG) that will offer good HP in a build and not kill my DD ability (like over 15 MPG). Oh and sound cool. Really cool.
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2 of the best performing, most street friendly, and reliable cams on the market are the 224 and the 228

do some searches, there are plenty of threads on them.

for some clearification a cam listed as 221/221 114lsa means that the duration that the cam keeps the valves open is 221 degrees, the 114 is the lobe separation angle, usually they list a number for lift as well, typically something like .55x" or .58x" which means how much the cam opens the valve.

the higher the duration, generally the "bigger" a cam is. lift can also play into that.

lower LSA is generally more rough idle and less emissions freindly.

as for gas mileage. with stock gears behind an M6...my 233/233 cam gets 25-26mpg highway (80mph windows down, ttops off). and around town about 17mpg (all short trips <10miles w/ traffic), and 19mpg (longer 20-50mile trips but slow speeds <55mph).
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Get a 228R LSA 112 from Texas Speed.com it's a proven DD cam
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i have the torquer 2....232 234 on 112 lsa....ooodles of torque and plenty of power up top! it doesnt surge or buck unless under 1400 rpms, and my gas mileage went up about 3 or 4 mpg as well as a gain of over 80 rwhp
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Originally Posted by blown03mustang
i have the torquer 2....232 234 on 112 lsa....ooodles of torque and plenty of power up top! it doesnt surge or buck unless under 1400 rpms, and my gas mileage went up about 3 or 4 mpg as well as a gain of over 80 rwhp

You got better gas mileage with your cam?
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Originally Posted by crapyboy750
You got better gas mileage with your cam?
I was thinking the samething, cus i didnt. LOL

oh and in the interest of the thread and about different views of drivability. I had the 233/239 and daily drove it for over a year and loved it. with it full bolt-ons and a 3,200 stall i got 17ish crusing around town
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I ran a 221/221 114LSA cam in my car for years. Definitely not the most aggressive sounding cam, but it ran well and made good power AND torque. The lope was juuust enough to be noticable, but also often overlooked. Fuel milage with it was excellent - I routinely saw mid-high 20s highway. With the converter locked at low speed (~35mph), the cam behaved like stock. No surging or bucking even at 900-1000rpm under load!

You might be better off with something a little more aggressive, but if you're set on this grind, I've still got mine, and will let it go fairly cheap.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
I ran a 221/221 114LSA cam in my car for years. Definitely not the most aggressive sounding cam, but it ran well and made good power AND torque. The lope was juuust enough to be noticable, but also often overlooked. Fuel milage with it was excellent - I routinely saw mid-high 20s highway. With the converter locked at low speed (~35mph), the cam behaved like stock. No surging or bucking even at 900-1000rpm under load!

You might be better off with something a little more aggressive, but if you're set on this grind, I've still got mine, and will let it go fairly cheap.
I'm not too set on any at the moment.

Does the fact that I'm going FI effect my selection on cams? I'm getting a wet Nitrous Kit and a Procharger I plan to run at 8-12 PSI. Not all at once but within the next year or so.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
I ran a 221/221 114LSA cam in my car for years. Definitely not the most aggressive sounding cam, but it ran well and made good power AND torque. The lope was juuust enough to be noticable, but also often overlooked. Fuel milage with it was excellent - I routinely saw mid-high 20s highway. With the converter locked at low speed (~35mph), the cam behaved like stock. No surging or bucking even at 900-1000rpm under load!

You might be better off with something a little more aggressive, but if you're set on this grind, I've still got mine, and will let it go fairly cheap.


what did u make out of that cam,, do u have any dyno?

cuz i have the same cam and i want to know how much it make's.
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Originally Posted by Vicinity
I'm not too set on any at the moment.

Does the fact that I'm going FI effect my selection on cams? I'm getting a wet Nitrous Kit and a Procharger I plan to run at 8-12 PSI.
You want everything working together, so YES, FI would affect cam selection. You could go with a good N/A cam grind, and still get away with FI later on, but if you are 100% sure this is the direction you are going, then you should select a grind that is meant for boosted applications. In the long run, you'll be happy you did.

Usually something with a big split in the intake/exhaust duration and lower lift ( I think ) is best for boosted applications. Keep researching and asking questions.
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If you want the sound and power, you need to go with a 228r or something along those lines.. On a 112lsa or lower. This wont kill your gas mileage either.



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