Ported Intake / Throttle Body and Tuning Special
02-05-2010, 02:17 PM
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Ported Intake / Throttle Body and Tuning Special From now through Feb. 28th we are offering a great porting and tuning special in honor of the arrival of Formato baby #2. And well, we are also in the Valentines day time frame and tax returns. Great time to get yourself a little something while your stock is up for taking care of your sweetheart for Valentines Day.
We are now making our ported intake manifolds and throttle bodies available together for $325.00 shipped for a Stage 1 and $400.00 shipped for the Stage 2. This is a savings of $75.00 off regular pricing. In addition, if you would like a your vehicle email tuned and optimized for this greater air flowing ability (with HP Tuners), we will do this for just $200.00. This is a another savings of $75.00 off regular pricing. Even if you don't have HP Tuners, you can send us your PCM and we will do it that way. With this combo of tuning and fully ported manifold/tb you could see up to 30 rwhp and 35 rwtq gains.
Stage 1 intake only $275.00 shipped
Stage 2 intake only $350.00 shipped
LS2 and up Throttle Bodies $100.00 shipped
FAST manifold porting reduced to $300.00 for this time period as well
Normally our stage 1 intakes are $300.00, Stage 2's $375.00, TB's $150 and mail order tuning $275.00. Done together for now for only $525.00 stage 1 or $600.00 for stage 2, you will save $150.00 when tuning and porting combined. That's enough to still get the misses a little something extra nice while still packing in another 30 or so naturally aspirated horses under your hood. Not bad.
Stage 1 information:
The average gain for the LS2 intake manifold over stock is 11 rwhp/13rwtq. The LS3/L76 average gain over stock is 10 rwhp/12rwtq. The LS7 average gain over stock is 17rwhp/19rwtq.
We have done over 350+ LS2 intake manifolds, 100+ LS7 , and 70+ LS3 & L76s and over 350 TB's.
When porting the TB you will see greatly improved throttle response and bottom end/mid range Tq feel and a significant seat of the pants gain. Our manifolds are very thoroughly ported not only in the runners (like some do) but also much of the plenum and TB flange are enlarged in order to support more airflow in the upper RPM. The larger the air reservoir the less likely to deplete more volume in the upper RPMs. Hence the OEM difference of the '00 LS1 intake vs the '01 LS6 intake.
Stage 2 information:
Stage 2 porting is taking the manifold to its limit - as much of the plenum is removed while still staying safe from vacuum leaks. We rework all the runners for an even deeper cut and we use a much more aggressive sanding method, even deeper than the 8 inches we typically port in the stg 1 manifolds. For stage two manifolds we remove the inner posts and completely flatten the plenum floor all the way to the back on the inside of the manifold as well as the outside so as to make a air gap between the valley and manifold base. We epoxy small aluminum plates, screw them in, and then epoxy the inside as well, to prevent any air leaks. This stage 2 manifold porting is a cheaper alternative to a FAST manifold, but it is also designed for someone that is trying to FULLY optimize their power on a budget. We are targeting those that want the MOST from the stock manifold at a decent price.
On our own GTO we tested the stage 2 manifold vs our stage one and we picked up an additional 6rwhp and 7 rwtq on an A-B test on the dyno same day, same weather, same engine conditions. This is in addition to the 11/13 from the stage one manifold We also had an independent test done by a shop in NY and they gained over 15+rwhp and 18+rwtq.
We do not offer stg2 for the FASTs. We port all of them as aggressively as possible, with over 3.5 hours to port per manifold.
Ls2 average gains over stage 1 porting is 6 rwhp/7 rwtq
LS3/76 average gains over stage 1 porting is 4 rwhp/4 rwtq
LS7 average gains over stage 1 porting is 4 rwhp/4 rwtq
Performance will vary depending on mods and tuning.
If you want us to send you directly a ported intake and throttle body, a core charge of $550.00 applies ($275.00 each), but it is refunded as soon as we receive your undamaged originals back. To send us your intake and throttle body for porting the turn around time is typically 2-3 business days. All intake manifold gaskets are typically reusable.
Here is a post with some helpful tuning tips for those doing their own, or having someone else do the tune.
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332702
To order call 813 476 7364 for Visa/MC/Amex
We accept paypal at:
fastprom@tampabay.rr.com
Our Shipping address is:
Fasterproms
19103 Sunlake Blvd
Lutz Fl
33558
Note: we do not port LS1 or LS6 manifolds as there are no measurable gains associated with these manifolds.
Dyno Graphs
This is an 05 GTO M6 "on the dyno" A (stage 1 ported manifold) vs B (stage 2 ported manifold).
After getting the base line run in, the stage 1 was removed and the stage 2 was installed and tested.
2010 M6 Camaro full intake and exhaust, run 2 had a base tune in it, run 3 was the intake swap and the last run was the fully optimized tune with a little bit more spark advance. This is a very recent A-B test of a LS3 stock intake to a stage 2, performed on a dyno jet in S Florida.
Results will vary and each car is different, with this one performing on the higher end of the scale, but the intake was a large factor in achieving these results.
Here is a 07 A6 Vette - had a fully optimized Formato tune, re baseline the car and installed the stage 2 intake. Again, the increase in power is not simply a peak power increase but is significant through out the entire RPM range. Same day, same conditions, A vs B test.
This Car is an 07 Z06 with the following mods:
Callaway CAI, Fasterproms Ported TB and stg 1 manifold, STOCK EXH manifolds, B&B Fusion catback, Fasterproms custom tune.
Run 1 was a baseline pull with all aforementioned mods, fully optimized.
Run 6 was Stg 2 manifold and a tuning tweak, more fuel.
We were pleased to get this kind of power in weather in 90F + air temps.
Bottom line: Stage 2 over Stage 1 picked up 6 rwhp and 9 rwtq through out the rev range, and 10 and 10 in some areas.
Jeremy Formato
We are now making our ported intake manifolds and throttle bodies available together for $325.00 shipped for a Stage 1 and $400.00 shipped for the Stage 2. This is a savings of $75.00 off regular pricing. In addition, if you would like a your vehicle email tuned and optimized for this greater air flowing ability (with HP Tuners), we will do this for just $200.00. This is a another savings of $75.00 off regular pricing. Even if you don't have HP Tuners, you can send us your PCM and we will do it that way. With this combo of tuning and fully ported manifold/tb you could see up to 30 rwhp and 35 rwtq gains.
Stage 1 intake only $275.00 shipped
Stage 2 intake only $350.00 shipped
LS2 and up Throttle Bodies $100.00 shipped
FAST manifold porting reduced to $300.00 for this time period as well
Normally our stage 1 intakes are $300.00, Stage 2's $375.00, TB's $150 and mail order tuning $275.00. Done together for now for only $525.00 stage 1 or $600.00 for stage 2, you will save $150.00 when tuning and porting combined. That's enough to still get the misses a little something extra nice while still packing in another 30 or so naturally aspirated horses under your hood. Not bad.
Stage 1 information:
The average gain for the LS2 intake manifold over stock is 11 rwhp/13rwtq. The LS3/L76 average gain over stock is 10 rwhp/12rwtq. The LS7 average gain over stock is 17rwhp/19rwtq.
We have done over 350+ LS2 intake manifolds, 100+ LS7 , and 70+ LS3 & L76s and over 350 TB's.
When porting the TB you will see greatly improved throttle response and bottom end/mid range Tq feel and a significant seat of the pants gain. Our manifolds are very thoroughly ported not only in the runners (like some do) but also much of the plenum and TB flange are enlarged in order to support more airflow in the upper RPM. The larger the air reservoir the less likely to deplete more volume in the upper RPMs. Hence the OEM difference of the '00 LS1 intake vs the '01 LS6 intake.
Stage 2 information:
Stage 2 porting is taking the manifold to its limit - as much of the plenum is removed while still staying safe from vacuum leaks. We rework all the runners for an even deeper cut and we use a much more aggressive sanding method, even deeper than the 8 inches we typically port in the stg 1 manifolds. For stage two manifolds we remove the inner posts and completely flatten the plenum floor all the way to the back on the inside of the manifold as well as the outside so as to make a air gap between the valley and manifold base. We epoxy small aluminum plates, screw them in, and then epoxy the inside as well, to prevent any air leaks. This stage 2 manifold porting is a cheaper alternative to a FAST manifold, but it is also designed for someone that is trying to FULLY optimize their power on a budget. We are targeting those that want the MOST from the stock manifold at a decent price.
On our own GTO we tested the stage 2 manifold vs our stage one and we picked up an additional 6rwhp and 7 rwtq on an A-B test on the dyno same day, same weather, same engine conditions. This is in addition to the 11/13 from the stage one manifold We also had an independent test done by a shop in NY and they gained over 15+rwhp and 18+rwtq.
We do not offer stg2 for the FASTs. We port all of them as aggressively as possible, with over 3.5 hours to port per manifold.
Ls2 average gains over stage 1 porting is 6 rwhp/7 rwtq
LS3/76 average gains over stage 1 porting is 4 rwhp/4 rwtq
LS7 average gains over stage 1 porting is 4 rwhp/4 rwtq
Performance will vary depending on mods and tuning.
If you want us to send you directly a ported intake and throttle body, a core charge of $550.00 applies ($275.00 each), but it is refunded as soon as we receive your undamaged originals back. To send us your intake and throttle body for porting the turn around time is typically 2-3 business days. All intake manifold gaskets are typically reusable.
Here is a post with some helpful tuning tips for those doing their own, or having someone else do the tune.
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332702
To order call 813 476 7364 for Visa/MC/Amex
We accept paypal at:
fastprom@tampabay.rr.com
Our Shipping address is:
Fasterproms
19103 Sunlake Blvd
Lutz Fl
33558
Note: we do not port LS1 or LS6 manifolds as there are no measurable gains associated with these manifolds.
Dyno Graphs
This is an 05 GTO M6 "on the dyno" A (stage 1 ported manifold) vs B (stage 2 ported manifold).
After getting the base line run in, the stage 1 was removed and the stage 2 was installed and tested.
2010 M6 Camaro full intake and exhaust, run 2 had a base tune in it, run 3 was the intake swap and the last run was the fully optimized tune with a little bit more spark advance. This is a very recent A-B test of a LS3 stock intake to a stage 2, performed on a dyno jet in S Florida.
Results will vary and each car is different, with this one performing on the higher end of the scale, but the intake was a large factor in achieving these results.
Here is a 07 A6 Vette - had a fully optimized Formato tune, re baseline the car and installed the stage 2 intake. Again, the increase in power is not simply a peak power increase but is significant through out the entire RPM range. Same day, same conditions, A vs B test.
This Car is an 07 Z06 with the following mods:
Callaway CAI, Fasterproms Ported TB and stg 1 manifold, STOCK EXH manifolds, B&B Fusion catback, Fasterproms custom tune.
Run 1 was a baseline pull with all aforementioned mods, fully optimized.
Run 6 was Stg 2 manifold and a tuning tweak, more fuel.
We were pleased to get this kind of power in weather in 90F + air temps.
Bottom line: Stage 2 over Stage 1 picked up 6 rwhp and 9 rwtq through out the rev range, and 10 and 10 in some areas.
Jeremy Formato
02-08-2010, 01:20 PM
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We don't have any 102 comparison #s vs the LS3, but have ported a few 102's. They performed excellent over a competitors ported LS7 manifold, as the ported 102 picked up an additional 17/20 hp/tq.
The 102 would be the better performer hands if budget is not a concern, where as the ported OEM is much better cost wise.
Thank you
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The 102 would be the better performer hands if budget is not a concern, where as the ported OEM is much better cost wise.
Thank you
Dan
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02-09-2010, 10:04 PM
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Strongly considering this. I have a stock long block LS2, still with stock intake, but willing to pay more to get optimal results. How does the Stg 2 LS2 compare to a Fast 92 or a 102? I have yet to see results of the 102 responding well to porting, so does that mean the Fast 92 has more potential in it (except for the TB size)? Thanks.
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Strongly considering this. I have a stock long block LS2, still with stock intake, but willing to pay more to get optimal results. How does the Stg 2 LS2 compare to a Fast 92 or a 102? I have yet to see results of the 102 responding well to porting, so does that mean the Fast 92 has more potential in it (except for the TB size)? Thanks.
The FAST will still produce more hp and tq than a ported LS2 intake, as it is a better design with higher flowing capabilities, and larger plenum volume. It will usually be about 8 to 8 hp better than the ported LS2. We are simply trying to mimic that with porting these intakes to the maximum. The cost factor is what makes porting so desirable, as it takes a few more hundred dollars to go with a FAST for a few more hp/tq gains. You can get your stock intake and manifold close to FAST levels of performance for about half the cost of that manifold, not including the cost of replacing the throttle body when necessary.
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Stage 2 Intake and Throttle Body and Tune Results Run 1 is the base line.
Run 4 is the stage 2 intake and throttle body installed with preliminary tuning.
Run 5 is with the final tune installed.
The vehicle is a cammed 07 Z06 with CAI, headers and exhaust, and now with our stage 2 intake manifold and throttle body.
33 peak hp gain and 22 peak tq gain to the tires, with solid gains through out the rev band.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...g-special.html
Run 4 is the stage 2 intake and throttle body installed with preliminary tuning.
Run 5 is with the final tune installed.
The vehicle is a cammed 07 Z06 with CAI, headers and exhaust, and now with our stage 2 intake manifold and throttle body.
33 peak hp gain and 22 peak tq gain to the tires, with solid gains through out the rev band.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...g-special.html
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Do you port Fast 92 mm intakes that have already been on the car for 7k miles. Reason I ask is some other vendors only port new Fast intakes for some reason. I'm looking to squeeze out a little more power out of my car and for $300 that seems like it would net me a nice HP/Dollar gain.
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Do you port Fast 92 mm intakes that have already been on the car for 7k miles. Reason I ask is some other vendors only port new Fast intakes for some reason. I'm looking to squeeze out a little more power out of my car and for $300 that seems like it would net me a nice HP/Dollar gain.
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So being sunday is the 28th, If I send them the money ia pay pal and send out the intake tb say tomorrow (monday) I still am in the correct time frame for this sale, correct?
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They will get pretty dirty, and the intake ports get oil in them (normal due to the PCV system), but we have no issue with cleaning them before and after porting. The nice thing with it already being on the car, we can port match it to the witness marks on the intake where it was mated to the head. Please feel free to cal us at 813 476 7364.
Thanks
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