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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 10:38 PM
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thinking of doing a erl 4.125 bore and 4.125 stroke. this is a race car build, n/a carb and race fuel. Not wanting to turn over 7600 to7800. other option 4.155x 4 inch anyone have any experience pros or cons?
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 12:26 AM
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Would be good only with any ERL/RED 5.8 resleeved block. 6.2 block R good 4 4.100 stroke.7.0ls7 block can that a 4.250 crank. Lq9 block can take a 4.1- 4.125 stroke but a custom piston R needed $1100.oo. your choice ....even a LSX block.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by m.lion
thinking of doing a erl 4.125 bore and 4.125 stroke. this is a race car build, n/a carb and race fuel. Not wanting to turn over 7600 to7800. other option 4.155x 4 inch anyone have any experience pros or cons?
4.185" x 4.0" is an option too, it'll get you 440ci. I built a couple and the last one made over 600whp on a Mustang dyno through an unported FAST manifold. Got close to 900whp with nitrous.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:38 AM
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I've heard that stock sleeve engines with over 4.00" stroke often have oil consumption issues and can be a little more difficult to clearance. Not sure if this is true or not, but I recently bought a 4" stroke rotating assembly on this assumption.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 10:47 AM
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Well 4.125 or 4.100 crank will work with LQ9/ LS2-3 BLOCK BUT WILL OR MUST HAVE A
CUSTOM PISTON / HKE- LME BUILD THE ENGINE OTHER WISE OIL BURNER
O YEAH GZ VAC. PUMP WILL HELP KILL OIL consumption.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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I've heard that stock sleeve engines with over 4.00" stroke often have oil consumption issues and can be a little more difficult to clearance.
He's talking about a re-sleeved block though, which usually have much longer liners to handle longer strokes.

ther option 4.155x 4 inch anyone have any experience pros or cons?
Bigger bores usually help with headflow and allows for bigger valves. If I was building a race engine with a certain displacement in mind, I would choose one with the biggest bore possible and a shorter stroke and then top it off with some big valved heads. Especially if wanting to rev to 7600rpm.

If it was a street motor, I would probably go with the longer stroke since that usually produces more low end torque and not worry about trying to make it scream to 7600rpm.
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^ I like the idea of a big bore stroker build as well. It will be the way I will build my LSX motor. 4.185 bore x 4.000 stroke.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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If it was a street motor, I would probably go with the longer stroke since that usually produces more low end torque and not worry about trying to make it scream to 7600rpm.
Hell, I'd still do a 4.185" x 4.250" stroke and run that bitch up to 7600RPM lol.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Hell, I'd still do a 4.185" x 4.250" stroke and run that bitch up to 7600RPM lol.
Piston speed would be 44.86 feet per second per piston....Geeesh....
A 360 CID (4.185"x3.27") at 7600 would have a piston speed of 34.52 ft./sec.
I'm not saying that a 360 incher would ever make the power of a 468" monster but since roughly 60% on an
engine's rotating friction is piston rings.....a 23% reduction in distance traveled is huge !!!!! The engine would most
certainly make more power per cube by virtue of efficiency.

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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 03:01 PM
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Big bore short stroke is what I think works best. Of course it depends on what you want. But my next engine will be just that.
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
Piston speed would be 44.86 feet per second per piston....Geeesh....
A 360 CID (4.185"x3.27") at 7600 would have a piston speed of 34.52 ft./sec.
I'm not saying that a 360 incher would ever make the power of a 468" monster but since roughly 60% on an
engine's rotating friction is piston rings.....a 23% reduction in distance traveled is huge !!!!! The engine would most
certainly make more power per cube by virtue of efficiency.
That power per cube is some ricer math lol.
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Originally Posted by mebuildit
Big bore short stroke is what I think works best. Of course it depends on what you want. But my next engine will be just that.
I think it depends on the RPM range you want to operate in, but without a displacement limit, I'll take the biggest bore and longest stroke I can have within reason for the most cubic inches.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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so who is the person who builds crazy power out of n/a carb builds? looking for help!
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Agreed. Though it is kind of cool to hear it at 7500rpms.

It also depends on budget. It's cheaper to go to add stroke with a new crank that it is to add lots of bore with a sleeved block.
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