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Old Sep 23, 2021 | 09:52 AM
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Man I feel for you .I’m going thru the same **** with Steward Lifers. I sent them back August 23 I have called 4 times already no answer no emails.anybody can have a defective product. but it’s how They address the problem. I hate for you.

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Originally Posted by DualQuadDave
Just curious, how much spring pressure were you running? A lot of the serious big boy solid roller set-ups I see just run solid valves and spring accordingly for the weight. Every set-up is different though, I probably would have built my combo same as yours. Hope it goes back together soon.
Nothing insane,was running .685 btr springs.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
The hollow stem Ferrera intakes are a 98 gram hollow stem performance valve. No backstory really, as they are an upgrade to a solid stem intake because of weight. A big valve like this is heavy and hollow stems are common with a valve this size. I’ve ran the slop out of mine without issue. I’m likely going to go Ti intakes, which is an upgrade yet again, but very expensive, as they are bigger and heads have to e re-worked. First valve like this ive seen break a stem personally.
This is my 2nd time having one break, I lost a 421 motor in 2019 for the same thing. It had MMS 260 LS3 heads with Rev hollow stem valves.

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Old Sep 23, 2021 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Last 1
Man I feel for you .I’m going thru the same **** with Steward Lifers. I sent them back August 23 I have called 4 times already no answer no emails.anybody can have a defective product. but it’s how They address the problem. I hate for you.
Thanks man and I agree, customer service means everything to me. I will be going to TI valves from hear on out.

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Old Sep 23, 2021 | 04:08 PM
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Yeah I'm glad I was steered away from hollow stem on my ls3 heads. Gavin Simcoe said let's do solid. My mast ls7 heads have titanium.
Sorry to see you getting an expensive bill on this
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Sorry for the carnage, but still appreciated all the discussion.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy97
This is my 2nd time having one break, I lost a 421 motor in 2019 for the same thing. It had MMS 260 LS3 heads with Rev hollow stem valves.
Rev valves…say no more. Ferrera on the other hand, nothing but quality. I hate this man. Edited my previous post. Meant to say first Ferrera hollow stem I’ve seen break.

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Old Sep 23, 2021 | 05:34 PM
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Damn...been off the boards for quite a while and just came across this thread.
That sucks about the valves.

FYI, engine dyno I picked up over 20 crank HP and some torque with a billet top loaded lid and 4550 accufab on the Holley Highram with out touching anything else.... this engine is a deep breather.

My 468 is getting ready to be reinstalled in a week or so....... Erik put in a solid roller cam ( I decided to stop being a pu$$y LOL), Naiser ported the BR7's some more and now have somewhere around 300cc intake port volume and picked up considerably amount of flow all the way out to .800 . I think the original port volume (275cc) may have held us back as Naiser's big Superflow showed numbers on my original head port work that really didn't match what the original 660 bench showed...the numbers were significantly lower than the what Dan initially got out of them before they began the port work...but the final numbers Todd and Dan were able to finally get were amazing. We shall see real soon what that translates too

We installed some gas ported rings, a CCW crank, some serious endurance conical springs, etc.

Should be an interseting few weeks coming up as I prepare for the race season
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Old Sep 23, 2021 | 05:58 PM
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Damn...been off the boards for quite a while and just came across this thread.
That sucks about the valves.

FYI, engine dyno I picked up over 20 crank HP and some torque with a billet top loaded lid and 4550 accufab on the Holley Highram with out touching anything else.... this engine is a deep breather.

My 468 is getting ready to be reinstalled in a week or so....... Erik put in a solid roller cam ( I decided to stop being a pu$$y LOL), Naiser ported the BR7's some more and now have somewhere around 300cc intake port volume and picked up considerably amount of flow all the way out to .800 . I think the original port volume (275cc) may have held us back as Naiser's big Superflow showed numbers on my original head port work that really didn't match what the original 660 bench showed...the numbers were significantly lower than the what Dan initially got out of them before they began the port work...but the final numbers Todd and Dan were able to finally get were amazing. We shall see real soon what that translates too

We installed some gas ported rings, a CCW crank, some serious endurance conical springs, etc.

Should be an interseting few weeks coming up as I prepare for the race season
Looking forward to your progress.
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Oh man. Yes! Good updates man excited to see what it does. You were obviously up against some breathing limitations - solid roller and much bigger heads is the way to go. 275cc heads are at home on a 427.

Jealous of your big spring pockets. Those conical springs are nice, but need a larger spring base for high lift capable springs.

Any specs on that solid roller?

The gas ported rings from what I've seen are all positive with no downside.
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Originally Posted by spanks13
Oh man. Yes! Good updates man excited to see what it does. You were obviously up against some breathing limitations - solid roller and much bigger heads is the way to go. 275cc heads are at home on a 427.

Jealous of your big spring pockets. Those conical springs are nice, but need a larger spring base for high lift capable springs.

Any specs on that solid roller?

The gas ported rings from what I've seen are all positive with no downside.
I'll update my original thread with the new data as i don't want to hijack this one.
Erik was pretty excited about the new spring we are using.
New solid roller is .800 lift.
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Check out what Danny Nicely was running in his C5 (4.8's in the 1/8th)

Cast MOZEZ tunnel ram modified by URE and 8500 Accufab.

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Check out what Danny Nicely was running in his C5 (4.8's in the 1/8th)

Cast MOZEZ tunnel ram modified by URE and 8500 Accufab.
jealous of the room to fit that. Fbodyproblems
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
jealous of the room to fit that. Fbodyproblems
We tested a 6500 for ***** and giggles...no way it was going to fit on a Vette but we wanted to see how much we were choking it off with a 102 tb



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Mercy! Don't that be purty....
Old Sep 24, 2021 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy97
This is my 2nd time having one break, I lost a 421 motor in 2019 for the same thing. It had MMS 260 LS3 heads with Rev hollow stem valves.
Damn man, not to **** on Tony or anything but you're taking this pretty well for someone whose had two motors taken out by the same company's heads.
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Originally Posted by psicko
Damn man, not to **** on Tony or anything but you're taking this pretty well for someone whose had two motors taken out by the same company's heads.
No sir I didn't take it well at all. I just chose not to post that drama on here. So let's just say in the future that I've chosen to spend my money elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy97
No sir I didn't take it well at all. I just chose not to post that drama on here. So let's just say in the future that I've chosen to spend my money elsewhere.
Gotcha. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar lol. Hoping the repair goes well and you're back to racing in no time.
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Gotcha. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar lol. Hoping the repair goes well and you're back to racing in no time.
I appreciate it. We're gonna put it back together with a CID intake and 4500 throttlthrottlebody. Should pick it up nicely.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy97
Nothing insane,was running .685 btr springs.
You know, after reading about the destruction and knowing about it peaking low, etc. As soon as I saw the pics with the broken valve, first thing I thought was you were floating the valves and didnt know it. Have Erik look hard at the valve job, it'll show signs of it. Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe I'm not. JMO, the .685 BTR spring is a nice piece for the $$$, but I would have expected something way more serious on your combo, Manley Nextek or Comp Concial, somehting like that.



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