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Old 02-01-2022, 10:23 AM
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Default mast heads, arent they similar to another head

if i recall seeing on here before, mast is sorta like american racing headers, some kooks headers employees decided to go out on their own and form american racing. i thought i saw mast and all pro castings were similar.....can anyone confirm or deny this?
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ETP (Cary) sold to MAST which was rebranded. MAST heads are their own thing. All of the employees just did their own thing that the NDA allowed them to do.
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Originally Posted by JRFed
ETP (Cary) sold to MAST which was rebranded. MAST heads are their own thing. All of the employees just did their own thing that the NDA allowed them to do.
whats nda stand for
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Originally Posted by Floorman279
What's NDA stand for?
Non-Disclosure Agreement
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Originally Posted by Floorman279
whats nda stand for
A Non-Discloser Agreement means they can not compete within themselves in a way.
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ok sounds good thanks for that info
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Originally Posted by Floorman279
i thought i saw mast and all pro castings were similar.....can anyone confirm or deny this?
For what it's worth, I know the 12-1 and Mast 285/305cc heads share the same Jesel rocker arm assembly. Instead of inline, the 7/16 stand bolts are staggered.
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Originally Posted by HighspeedLean
For what it's worth, I know the 12-1 and Mast 285/305cc heads share the same Jesel rocker arm assembly. Instead of inline, the 7/16 stand bolts are staggered.
thats good info, appreciate that
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Originally Posted by HighspeedLean
For what it's worth, I know the 12-1 and Mast 285/305cc heads share the same Jesel rocker arm assembly. Instead of inline, the 7/16 stand bolts are staggered.
Architecture and geometry probably are the same... port Cnc differs 12 degrees stays the same. There's only a few Foundries that cast heads ...ProFiler produces CID heads....From uncle Chad who got them straight from ProFiler.
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The Promaxx small bore heads are very similar, if not the same casting, as the MAST heads.
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Originally Posted by jayyyw
The Promaxx small bore heads are very similar, if not the same casting, as the MAST heads.
Copies of....Reason Mast is Now selling there Heads as Cast like All Pro, TFS, Edelbrock, Brodix etc...
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Originally Posted by Corona
Copies of....Reason Mast is Now selling there Heads as Cast like All Pro, TFS, Edelbrock, Brodix etc...
Are you saying Brodix heads are made by Mast? Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you....
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Originally Posted by grinder11
Are you saying Brodix heads are made by Mast? Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you....
no 👎 But Mast motorsports is Selling there heads as Cast like Brodix (All Pro, TFS, Edelbrock etc... and also offer them Ported with CNC like Brodix (All Pro, TFS, Edelbrock, etc...)

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Originally Posted by jayyyw
The Promaxx small bore heads are very similar, if not the same casting, as the MAST heads.
Those things turned out to be the biggest piles of ****!
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Those things turned out to be the biggest piles of ****!
That's the problem with not having a great porter...
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Reason a person buys a Promaxx head is to save money with a good porter on stand by. Perfectly Sized heads for less than TFS or the big names.
buy as cast 👍 or send out the cnc version for a little work


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Corona, how's Promaxx's machine & material quality? Do they use good valve seats and so on?

Any inside info you can share?

The Promaxx LS3 small bore "look" good.
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Originally Posted by Corona
That's the problem with not having a great porter...
Has NOTHING to do with porting.

Originally Posted by Corona
Reason a person buys a Promaxx head is to save money with a good porter on stand by. Perfectly Sized heads for less than TFS or the big names.
buy as cast 👍 or send out the cnc version for a little work
Not a good idea to waste money having promax heads ported. If you are going to buy them and port them set aside money for new valves, valve seats and guides, and time-sert all the rocker bolt holes... or just buy a proper set of heads.

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Corona, how's Promaxx's machine & material quality? Do they use good valve seats and so on?

Any inside info you can share?

The Promaxx LS3 small bore "look" good.
Out of the box they "looked" ok and made decent power on the dyno. However, and a big HOWEVER that power didn't last since the leakdown went to **** because the valve seats fell apart in a matter of weeks. Then to top it off since the casting material is junk the rocker threads also ripped out. Guys on other forums have had same issue, so doesnt seem like a one off case. For comparison one of my engines has had DART heads on it for 15 years and not had a single issue with them, works out to be about the same price or maybe even cheaper once you sort out all the issues on the promax.
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Thank you Slow Sedan!
That's a heart breaking experience, appreciate the heads up.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Has NOTHING to do with porting.



Not a good idea to waste money having promax heads ported. If you are going to buy them and port them set aside money for new valves, valve seats and guides, and time-sert all the rocker bolt holes... or just buy a proper set of heads.



Out of the box they "looked" ok and made decent power on the dyno. However, and a big HOWEVER that power didn't last since the leakdown went to **** because the valve seats fell apart in a matter of weeks. Then to top it off since the casting material is junk the rocker threads also ripped out. Guys on other forums have had same issue, so doesnt seem like a one off case. For comparison one of my engines has had DART heads on it for 15 years and not had a single issue with them, works out to be about the same price or maybe even cheaper once you sort out all the issues on the promax.
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Generally tend to go bigger or better on P's OS... nothings otb.


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