LS7 / C6R Velocity Stack Induction/Injection
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A video of one of Sam's homemade IR setups with a "baby" cam.
video 242/242 106 LSA 105 ICL
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/video/242-106.mpg
BTW, Sam is the owner of Sam's performance in Sydney. He built several of these systems. They cam in 48, 52, and 55MM butterflys. But the cost of building them is tto great, and the Harrop setup is in everyones opinion so much more fully developed that its the way they go now.
Here are pics on the dyno....
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00025.jpg
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00026.jpg
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00027.jpg
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00028.jpg
Intake
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00037.jpg
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00038.jpg
video 242/242 106 LSA 105 ICL
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/video/242-106.mpg
BTW, Sam is the owner of Sam's performance in Sydney. He built several of these systems. They cam in 48, 52, and 55MM butterflys. But the cost of building them is tto great, and the Harrop setup is in everyones opinion so much more fully developed that its the way they go now.
Here are pics on the dyno....
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00025.jpg
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00026.jpg
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00027.jpg
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00028.jpg
Intake
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00037.jpg
http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/aus/dsc00038.jpg
Originally Posted by J-Rod
Correct, if you look at the underside shot of the harrop, you can see that a section of the plenum is cast into the main body where you can draw a vaccum signal from for the map sensor, etc...
http://www.torquecentral.com/attachm...chmentid=13884
Originally Posted by rocketman442
I think the injection on the C5R was sourced fron Kinsler. they have a website, not sure what it is. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
The very first design was Kinsler. The C5-R cross ram that is seen in the pictures I posted is made by Katech. The LS7.R intake system is also manufactured by Katech.
TTT becuase I want one. Someone please find out if it will fit an F-body. I can't make it in time to do it because Of my schedule.
Thanks for taking the time to chat Drewman. Coolest intake ever.
Thanks for taking the time to chat Drewman. Coolest intake ever.
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Originally Posted by Katech
The very first design was Kinsler. The C5-R cross ram that is seen in the pictures I posted is made by Katech. The LS7.R intake system is also manufactured by Katech.
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damn that Harrop setup is sweet. if i ever build a hybrid and have enough money im gettin that setup or something similar. i have heard wonderful things about the cams that the aussies are using with that setup and driveablity. and remember, Mad Max was australian
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Originally Posted by TUF383
Actually ... The first design was done by Harrop for GM (off drawings as heads were not yet made).
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Originally Posted by technical
Harrop's website states that system is for a Ford supercar.... And it would be the first time I've heard that Harrop did the first design for the C5R's.
Thats because its not true. We designed and built the C5-R engine and have only heard of Harrop recently. If we were buying intakes from them we would have known who they were. Like I said, the first one we worked with Kinsler, the majority of them were Katech. LS7.R design is a Katech design.
TTT
It never hurts to ask...
Can I have one? I mean, for free? I don't have any money, certainly not thosands of dollars. So, here I am begging. I'm not above that.
Problem is, I will never actually need one, and that's the only reason you would buy something like this. Its just so, so, so cool, and i'm sure it does all the great things said in this thread, but the most I'll have is a stock 346 w/ a street cam (224, probably).
I can just imagine an LS1 Camaso with a cowl hood and one of these things...
It never hurts to ask...
Can I have one? I mean, for free? I don't have any money, certainly not thosands of dollars. So, here I am begging. I'm not above that.
Problem is, I will never actually need one, and that's the only reason you would buy something like this. Its just so, so, so cool, and i'm sure it does all the great things said in this thread, but the most I'll have is a stock 346 w/ a street cam (224, probably).
I can just imagine an LS1 Camaso with a cowl hood and one of these things...
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Anyone know who in the U.S. builds Throttle body assemblys besides Accufab? I know Wilson build them, but the smallest they have is 65MM. I'm sure I could buy them from Kinsler too, but if I remeber, they were sorta pricey.
I see that some of the import guys bolt them directly to the head. They use folks like Jenvey from the U.K. I'm just looking for who build TB's the cheapest, as a way to build an inexpensive IR intake.
Like this...
http://www.jenvey.co.uk/
I've also considered hitting the salvage yards and pick up a TB from some sort of common import/domestic that would probably do the job. Probably a small 4 cylinder since a 48-52mm would be more than enough blade area...
I see that some of the import guys bolt them directly to the head. They use folks like Jenvey from the U.K. I'm just looking for who build TB's the cheapest, as a way to build an inexpensive IR intake.
Like this...
http://www.jenvey.co.uk/
I've also considered hitting the salvage yards and pick up a TB from some sort of common import/domestic that would probably do the job. Probably a small 4 cylinder since a 48-52mm would be more than enough blade area...
Last edited by J-Rod; Nov 22, 2005 at 02:15 PM.
Originally Posted by J-Rod
I've also considered hitting the salvage yards and pick up a TB from some sort of common import/domestic that would probably do the job. Probably a small 4 cylinder since a 48-52mm would be more than enough blade area...
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/itb/
Some newer bikes use that 48-50mm blade you're looking for.
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Strictly based on cost. I have one of their TB's now on my GN. Im very familiar with them, and very happy with their work. But, they are usually about $350 per Tb, which is to pricey for me...
I just didn't know if there were other folks out there in the U.S. I might have missed. Just looking for other options as well. Not discouting Accufab, just as I said, looking at all the options.
I just didn't know if there were other folks out there in the U.S. I might have missed. Just looking for other options as well. Not discouting Accufab, just as I said, looking at all the options.
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there is a company that is building bike throttle boddie setups for racers over here in the UK! they have only had good results from them so far! but not sure if they would be big enough for a LSx engine! anyone know the bore of a 1300GSXR throttle boddie? how about aftermarket stuff?
thanks Chris.
thanks Chris.
hmm i know a bunch of places i could get a bike setup pretty cheap... but assuming you could fab up everything to mount them how would you deal with the maf?
And a tt setup with a homemade velocity stack intake sounds like a neat new project....
And a tt setup with a homemade velocity stack intake sounds like a neat new project....