Any Word On LS7 Con Rod Price and Availability
08-20-2005, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidNJ
I'm just thinking that we could be looking at a set of 480gm con rods for $1000 or so.
08-20-2005, 11:03 PM
#4
It has a $15k list price. Aftermarket Ti rods at $500-800 per rod, are custom machined from billet. These are volume forgings, possibly over 10,000 sets per year; 80,000 rods. That is probably more Ti rods than all other sources combined.
The huge balancing pads in the pictures indicate a production quality level. I would be surprised at a price above $150-175 per rod, and shocked at a price over $250.
The huge balancing pads in the pictures indicate a production quality level. I would be surprised at a price above $150-175 per rod, and shocked at a price over $250.
08-20-2005, 11:54 PM
#5
Useable titanium alloys run about $80-100/lb Figure pre-machined weight of 2lbs per rod and you're looking at close to $200 in raw materials. Factor in other costs and GM is spending ~$220-250 per rod. Now, what do you think there going to sell them for? cost?
08-21-2005, 10:06 AM
#6
Originally Posted by mr2guru
Useable titanium alloys run about $80-100/lb Figure pre-machined weight of 2lbs per rod and you're looking at close to $200 in raw materials. Factor in other costs and GM is spending ~$220-250 per rod. Now, what do you think there going to sell them for? cost?
08-21-2005, 10:12 AM
#7
That would be $15-20M of titanium per year, and about 8% of the manufacturing cost of a Z06 and 10-14% of the purchase price of a complete LS7. Does that sound realistic?
First, what is the source of your price information. I have not found bar prices on-line.
Second, if the prices are that high the volume manufacturing process would have less waste (45% in your estimate).
Third, just for LS7 production, GM will by 40 tons/year at 2lb/rod using your estimates. Probably sourced overseas. That should allow a negotiated price.
Fourth, titanium is showing up in various cars, especially for valves (Nissan). This also indicates volume prices for the grades being used for these parts can't be prohibitive.
First, what is the source of your price information. I have not found bar prices on-line.
Second, if the prices are that high the volume manufacturing process would have less waste (45% in your estimate).
Third, just for LS7 production, GM will by 40 tons/year at 2lb/rod using your estimates. Probably sourced overseas. That should allow a negotiated price.
Fourth, titanium is showing up in various cars, especially for valves (Nissan). This also indicates volume prices for the grades being used for these parts can't be prohibitive.