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Old 07-10-2006, 05:25 PM
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if i wanted to build up an engine for my F-body would i be better of going with an LS7...an aluminum 427 from sum1 like LS1 speed or a iron block 408....
how much would these cost installed...how hard would they be to install myself??
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Originally Posted by who281
if i wanted to build up an engine for my F-body would i be better of going with an LS7...an aluminum 427 from sum1 like LS1 speed or a iron block 408....
how much would these cost installed...how hard would they be to install myself??
An iron 402/408 iron block is pretty cheap, depending on the components you want to use. 402 LS2's are fiarly affordable, and even more so if you buy and build the motor yourself. Above a 408 starts to get real expensive because you start to need sleeved blocks, which are $$$. A 427 won't be cheap no matter what you do. And sometimes if you try to go cheap you just end up paying more.
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Originally Posted by who281
if i wanted to build up an engine for my F-body would i be better of going with an LS7...an aluminum 427 from sum1 like LS1 speed or a iron block 408....
how much would these cost installed...how hard would they be to install myself??

We are currently building our 427 budget short blocks. Stay tuned...announcements soon.
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please post info as soon as the 427 budget shortblocks are ready, im curious my self. i saw mti had a 427 too
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Originally Posted by Katech
We are currently building our 427 budget short blocks. Stay tuned...announcements soon.
why do you tease us like this?
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Originally Posted by Katech
We are currently building our 427 budget short blocks. Stay tuned...announcements soon.
VERY interested, will this be based on the L92 block???

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Originally Posted by Katech
We are currently building our 427 budget short blocks. Stay tuned...announcements soon.

Very interested to see what you guys have...
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If it is based on the L92 block, which the bore is 4.06, then that means that the crank would have to be 4.125 to make 427 cubes. That would be the only way to do it without resleeving a L92, LS1, LS2 block.....unless they use the LS7 block which would defeat the 'budget' part so the LS7 block is out of the question.
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Originally Posted by UCABlackChevy
If it is based on the L92 block, which the bore is 4.06, then that means that the crank would have to be 4.125 to make 427 cubes. That would be the only way to do it without resleeving a L92, LS1, LS2 block.....unless they use the LS7 block which would defeat the 'budget' part so the LS7 block is out of the question.

It's our resleeved LS2
4.125 bore x 4.000 stroke
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Ah, I see, that is good I didn't think the 4.125 crank with 4.06 bore would work too well and would probably require custom pistons.......since its going to be a resleeved block i was wondering, if i could ask, approximately how budget it is going to be?
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Will this cost me one nut or both?
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Will this cost me one nut or both?
I have no facts in front of me but I would lean towards the both...
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Originally Posted by UCABlackChevy
Ah, I see, that is good I didn't think the 4.125 crank with 4.06 bore would work too well and would probably require custom pistons.......since its going to be a resleeved block i was wondering, if i could ask, approximately how budget it is going to be?
The goal is under $7000. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by UCABlackChevy
Ah, I see, that is good I didn't think the 4.125 crank with 4.06 bore would work too well and would probably require custom pistons.......since its going to be a resleeved block i was wondering, if i could ask, approximately how budget it is going to be?
L-92 is actually a 4.065" bore. So cleaned up to 4.07" would be no prob. Add a 4.1" eagle crank and voila...427 cubes.

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Originally Posted by Katech
The goal is under $7000. We'll see.
"Budget", please explain? Did the price drop on the sleeves?

What's ALL included in that price.
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
"Budget", please explain? Did the price drop on the sleeves?

What's ALL included in that price.
I would also like to know...

What's in it?
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Originally Posted by viewsonic
I would also like to know...

What's in it?

Katech resleeved LS2 cylinder case 4.125
-Dry sleeved
-Double vacuum impregnated
-decked
-clearanced for 4.000" stroke
-utilizes production main caps

Cola 4.000" stroke crankshaft

Callies H-beam rods

Katech forged pistons

Federal mogul / Clevite bearings

Precision race engine assembly by the same engine builders that build for ALMS, World Challenge and Grand Am.


We are building today and I will be making announcements very soon.
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$7k for a short block doesn't sound like much of a "Budget"

How is that cheaper than using a LS7 block?

For most people, including myself, using the term "Budget 427" means the least expensive way to get 427 cubes.

I guess my only concern is the vauge use of the word 'budget'.
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
$7k for a short block doesn't sound like much of a "Budget"

How is that cheaper than using a LS7 block?

For most people, including myself, using the term "Budget 427" means the least expensive way to get 427 cubes.

I guess my only concern is the vauge use of the word 'budget'.

by budget they mean less then 12,000..... in otherwords, budget for the guys with huge budgets.. not budget as it refers to 95% of the people on this website.
for a normal engine builder, id expect a budget motor to have the price start with a 4... maybe a 5 if its using thoes cranks and rods.. but still, id expect it cheaper.


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