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Old 04-01-2007, 06:28 PM
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my 408 made 550rwhp and 490tq w a 256/264 cam 650/650 lift on a 112 and needs new spark plugs every time i drive the car it has been tuned w just hp tuners i think a sd tune will hlep that i hope
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Jim, you should try to contact that guy with the silver A4 C5 that I have seen run at Byron, I heard it's a 402 or 408 and he goes like 10.6 on pump gas.
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that going to be fast
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Originally Posted by Chicago Crew UnderBoss
If yes, what compression, heads and cam specs you running and any 1/4 mile ets and mph? I believe this is going to be my next set-up and my goals are a reliable, bullet proof N/A LS2 402, that will run 10.5s at teh track at 130 mph at the track!!
Beware... Some of these chassis Dyno numbers aren't worth the paper they are written on. 550 rwhp... What's the drive train loss? 20%... So that means you have about 690 HP at the crank?... <On a pump gas stock intake, Hyd. cam 402! ... No effin' way!
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:28 PM
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It can be done but its not going to have a baby cam in it.But what is sreetable to some might not be to others.My wife has a .600/.615 cam in her daily driver on a 112 and we call that streetable.
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Originally Posted by Chicago Crew UnderBoss
Already have the motor built and ready to buy and it runs consistent 10.3s at 134 to 136 mph (all motor) on a 3400 lb race weight Z28, with a MAUAL TRANNY. Big stalled auto would run into the 9s with that type of power this is making. Has less than 100 miles on a brand new motor and 20 dragstrip passes (no spray/N/A). The track is what matter and we know this and this particular 12:1 to 1 compression 225 Trick Flowed Headed LS2 402 is certainly hauling the mail and should propel my Z06 into mid 10s all day and that's what i'm looking for!

Was just wondering who else is having these type of result on a max effort 402!

Sounds like the setup to get then! Pretty healthy setup, thats what you shoudl see out of any 408 with decent heads cam etc.Our stuff is running less compression, moderate cam in the upper 240s, and carrying around 2-300 lbs more normally than that as they are normally running NA when they are out of nitrous , we really havent ever built a max effort NA setup, but there are lots of guys who have and have been 8.90s to 10.0s range NA depending on weight/compression. TXCamss comes to mind, nothign crazy pump gas motor Erik built, 3400 lbs and 9.8s or 9.9s and drives it around some.
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Well I agree that it's possible, just depends on how much air you can get in/out of it....

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Originally Posted by calongo_SS
You can't go wrong with w2w. They build some of the best lsx motors out there. They get you exactly what you want.

I agree 100% as W2W is one of the premier engine builders here for sure (along with several other great selections-LME, Canadian Performance (Dave builds bad azz ****), ERIK formerly of HPE)!
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I am building a 402/408 with L92 Heads, L76 Intake, Holley 90mm Throttle Body, and the Magic Stick 3 Cam (237/242, .603/.609, 112 LSA)
I hope to hit 500RWHP through a A4.
Not going to happen.

460-470 through an M6. Youll see more of 450.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Not going to happen.

460-470 through an M6. Youll see more of 450.
I agree Mike, why go spend all that money on a new engine and mess it up with the wrong cam. Hell, a new cam is one of the cheapest parts of a new engine and the part that is most often f**ked up.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Not going to happen.

460-470 through an M6. Youll see more of 450.
This was accomplished with a 234/240 @0.050 dur cam on a 112+0 in a 402, so depending on the heads used he might come close. FYI this dyno sheet is through a M6 "Vette".
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Final results:

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the numbers for a baby cam "Gentleman's Cruiser". The torque curve remained pretty much as before so the car will remain a blast to drive. Richard at WCCH really feels that the intake is now the limiting factor on this setup. He's probably right. Someone really needs to come out with a cost effective street manifold that will keep up with the setup.

Ed and I are talking about another cam option this morning and we'll see what develops.

First Setup/Final Numbers:

I'm not saying that he should use the MS3 cam, B/C I would get a custom cam personally.
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Originally Posted by 1997bird
This was accomplished with a 234/240 @0.050 dur cam on a 112+0 in a 402, so depending on the heads used he might come close. FWI this dyno sheet is through a M6 "Vette".
Magic Stick isnt even remotely close to that cam you have. Sure the duration numbers might look similar...But what happens at .020 and other areas on the lobe plus the valves opening and closing events arent anywhere near what you post a graph to. I stick to my claims and its a very educated claim at that.
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Originally Posted by 1997bird
I'm not saying that he should use the MS3 cam, B/C I would get a custom cam personally.
Sorry I was in the middle of my edit when you posted your last comment.
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I'm running a 13-1 402, et 240 heads, eastside stroker grind cam,fast 90/90 and made 445 rwhp thru a th400 with a non lockup 5800 converter, with a nitrous tune. On motor it ran 10.8 spinning the rims in the tires, and the suspension is not anywhere near 100% yet

With a set of 28 et drags screwed to the rims, I'm epxpecting 10.5 from it on motor before it sees any nitrous
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Originally Posted by Jpr5690
think your shooting a little high for a 402.. tsp told me that 520-530 rwhp was "possible" with a "streetable" cam

and i think thats gonna be best case scinario
So if you did a search and pulled up a post I started in the Dyno section, the 372ci LS1 motor must be IMAGINARY to them.

BTW, it made over 720 on the engine dyno without the nitrous and its a purpose built nitrous motor. Sick enough that no one else has made that kind of power from an LS1 and the same parts.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I'm running a 13-1 402, et 240 heads, eastside stroker grind cam,fast 90/90 and made 445 rwhp thru a th400 with a non lockup 5800 converter, with a nitrous tune. On motor it ran 10.8 spinning the rims in the tires, and the suspension is not anywhere near 100% yet

With a set of 28 et drags screwed to the rims, I'm epxpecting 10.5 from it on motor before it sees any nitrous
spinning the tires on the wheels sint going to drastically cost you time unless it was making a lot fo revolutions I wouldnt think. We have cars that move the tire on the rim and cut 1.2s-1.4s, I doubt its really hurting it much at all
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Originally Posted by 1997bird
This was accomplished with a 234/240 @0.050 dur cam on a 112+0 in a 402, so depending on the heads used he might come close. FYI this dyno sheet is through a M6 "Vette".
Please remember this was intentionally NOT a max build. Still 500/466 ain't bad either. I've been driving the car all over the place and commuting in DC rush hour and still haven't found a downside to the build. Also, this was on a VERY honest dyno. Not saying they all aren't.
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
spinning the tires on the wheels sint going to drastically cost you time unless it was making a lot fo revolutions I wouldnt think. We have cars that move the tire on the rim and cut 1.2s-1.4s, I doubt its really hurting it much at all

revolution and a half per run, 90% at the launch we figure, judging by what it did in a 1/8th mile pass. Guy that mounted the tires put WAY too much soap on them.
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
Please remember this was intentionally NOT a max build. Still 500/466 ain't bad either. I've been driving the car all over the place and commuting in DC rush hour and still haven't found a downside to the build. Also, this was on a VERY honest dyno. Not saying they all aren't.
Yeah I know that this wasn't a max effort build. Ed and I had talked about a few things and maybe a different cam later on that would work out a little better. I use a different cam grinder and company than Comp Cams for my engine builds. Any how my cousin's red 99' Vette is at his shop right now getting a new 402 as well. I am going to fly out and we will try 3 Comp Cams camshafts and 3 of my own camshafts from my company for some R&D work with the ETP casting/RHS CNC heads.
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