Brakes messed up and oil leaks at 2k miles
09-24-2006, 08:52 PM
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Brakes messed up and oil leaks at 2k miles My brakes have gotten progressively worse since I purchased the car on July 4th. If you are sitting at a stop you can get them to go all the way to the floor and when you take off you have to push the accelerator down way more than you should to get it to move, trying to ease the car up at a light is impossible. Now Ive discovered an oil leak coming from the front cover of the engine running down to the oil pan and last weed the car triggered a po171 lean code. I cant believe that this is supposed to be one of GM's best cars. Has anyone else had this much trouble with their car yet.
09-24-2006, 11:48 PM
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No trouble at 20,000 miles...
Like SD said which car is it?
I know one of the GXP guys had trouble with the brakes and it ended up being a problem with the master cylinder.
Like SD said which car is it?
I know one of the GXP guys had trouble with the brakes and it ended up being a problem with the master cylinder.
09-25-2006, 10:37 AM
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Coming from my V6 Monte, I notice the torque converters are looser on the the V8 ones. The non-cable throttle has a bit of a delay I noticed too, that might be the hard to smoothly go forward trouble cause you experience, I know my car can be 'lurchy' in comparison to my old one.
09-25-2006, 10:59 AM
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Mike i think you have a problem...i have no trouble getting the car to move with very little pedal/effort. The only problem with the brakes is that i've had to have them turned twice in 11mos/13,000mi.
09-26-2006, 03:39 AM
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Its an 06 Impala SS. Took the car in and they think its leaking from the crank sensor. The guy was still trying to figure out what was going on with the brakes. I have a 05 Silverado for a rental, I gave the truck the same amount of braking effort that it takes to start slowing the Impala and I though I was going to go through the windshield, lol, its that bad.
09-26-2006, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SidewaysLS4
Coming from my V6 Monte, I notice the torque converters are looser on the the V8 ones. The non-cable throttle has a bit of a delay I noticed too, that might be the hard to smoothly go forward trouble cause you experience, I know my car can be 'lurchy' in comparison to my old one.
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09-29-2006, 02:55 PM
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Got the car back wednesday, its going back in monday. There is oil all over the place under it now, cant tell if the leak was fixed or not. The bolts in the airdam(?) were replaced with plastic pins that did not fit, the cover on the passenger side in wheelwell by the crank was given a ribbed fastner instead of the philips head one and it is loose as hell, the core support has three 1/4" wide 2" long gouges in it, and they did nothing to the brakes, the fluid is all cloudy like a fishtank when food sits in it too long. Im guessing I got the lemon out of the bunch because I havent seen anyone else with trouble like this.
10-02-2006, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike's 01WS6
Got the car back wednesday, its going back in monday. There is oil all over the place under it now, cant tell if the leak was fixed or not. The bolts in the airdam(?) were replaced with plastic pins that did not fit, the cover on the passenger side in wheelwell by the crank was given a ribbed fastner instead of the philips head one and it is loose as hell, the core support has three 1/4" wide 2" long gouges in it, and they did nothing to the brakes, the fluid is all cloudy like a fishtank when food sits in it too long. Im guessing I got the lemon out of the bunch because I havent seen anyone else with trouble like this.
If you keep having trouble you should force them to give you a new car.
10-04-2006, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BigMikeGXP
It does sorta sound like you got a lemon car. Unfortunately they do happen.
If you keep having trouble you should force them to give you a new car.
If you keep having trouble you should force them to give you a new car.
10-04-2006, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike's 01WS6
Got it back today all but 1 of the 5 bolt/fastner problems were fixed (ill buy 1 before I have to sit around and wait for them to put one in again). My Remote still sucks 15-25 ft range instead of the 200 its supposed to have. Brakes feel a little better after I got them to flush the system out, but still on the soft side. Buybacks suck because they end up giving you the same amount that you get trading it in anyhow, and its a pita to get the money out of them after the decision is made (know a couple of people that had to do this before), basically you waste a lot of hours going to a hearing with an arbitrator and filling out a lot of paperwork, then they try to still make you keep the car.
Yeah it would be a ton of bullshit to go through. Hopefully you won't get to that point.
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The thing that burns my *** the most about the remote is that the colorado and silverado that I had for rentals used the regular remotes and would work over 100 ft away.
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Did you have something done to the remote to think that it would be better?
There is a tech bulletin about this. You need to properly ground the antenna washer to the A-pillar and reprogram something. If you pop of the A-pillar cover (one 9/32 bolt?) you'll see that the antenna grid is grounded to the a-pillar by the use of a plastic pushpin connector. They say you need to use a self-tapping screw to fix the issue. I mentioned it to the dealer and they said that it wasn't listed for the Impala, but that's BS. I got the complete tech bulletin from a GM tech over at www.NAIOA.com. I'll find it and post it later.
There is a tech bulletin about this. You need to properly ground the antenna washer to the A-pillar and reprogram something. If you pop of the A-pillar cover (one 9/32 bolt?) you'll see that the antenna grid is grounded to the a-pillar by the use of a plastic pushpin connector. They say you need to use a self-tapping screw to fix the issue. I mentioned it to the dealer and they said that it wasn't listed for the Impala, but that's BS. I got the complete tech bulletin from a GM tech over at www.NAIOA.com. I'll find it and post it later.
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Here it is. I'm also getting false "low tire pressure" warnings on occasion. Seems related to the "RCDLR", whatever the hell that is...?
I used a self tapping screw.
The PI on this issue is PIC3764M...give them that. Here is how it reads......
Document ID# 1864865
2006 Chevrolet Impala
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Subject: Remote Keyless Entry (inop/Intermittent Function) Or Tire Pressure Monitor Concerns - keywords fob RCDLR RKE RVS start TIMS TPM transmitter vehicle #PIC3764M - (09/29/2006)
Models: 2006-2007 Buick Lucerne
2006-2007 Cadillac DTS
2006-2007 Chevrolet Impala and Monte Carlo
2007 Cadillac Escalade and SRX
2007 Chevrolet Avalanche, Suburban, Tahoe, Equinox
2007 GMC Yukon and Yukon Denali
2007 Pontiac Torrent
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This PI was updated to add the 2007 Cadillac SRX, to add additional keywords. and to add a note about following SI programming instructions. Please discard PIP3764K
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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
The vehicle may exhibit one or more of the following conditions:
• The RCDLR and RKE Transmitters will not function after the serial data bus has gone to sleep.
• Intermittently inoperative Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) - A condition of intermittent operation of the RKE transmitters (key fobs) has been identified. The RKE transmitter rolling codes may become out of synchronization with the RCDLR and cause an intermittent operation of the door lock/unlock feature or remote start
• Poor RKE range and/or Service Tire Monitor System message
• RKE inoperative after programming any module on the vehicle
• New RKE transmitters cannot be programmed
The RKE and Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) are functions of the Remote Control Door Lock Receiver (RCDLR) with the exception of the 2006 Lucerne which uses the EBCM since there are no tire pressure sensors mounted inside the wheels.
Recommendation/Instructions:
Caution: When programming a new or existing RCDLR the programming instructions in SI for the must be followed. On vehicles equipped with Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPM), if the tire type and tire pressure are not selected in module setup on the Tech 2, the RCDLR will not retain the tire pressures after the TPM system is learned.
RCDLR and RKE Transmitters Will Not Function After the Serial Data Bus Has Gone to Sleep:
Open the door to wake up the serial data bus, then verify the RCDLR functions normally.
Program with the latest software available in TIS (New S/W released 9/18/06)
Note:: Do NOT replace any parts.
Intermittently Inoperative Remote Keyless Entry (RKE):
Verify the synchronization concern by relearning the transmitters to the vehicle.
If the transmitter operation returns to normal following the relearn function the correction would be to reprogram the RCDLR with the latest software calibration.
If the transmitter operation does not return to normal then replace the transmitters with current SPO stock. All old stock has been purged. Do NOT replace the RCDLR or BCM for this condition.
Poor RKE Range and/or Service Tire Monitor System (TPM lost individual sensor data)(Applies to Car models only):
Follow the diagnostic system check, are there any related DTCs? Are there any DTCs in the RCDLR? If yes follow published diagnostics.
Verify External Antenna Coax connections at the RCDLR and at the glass.
Check for proper coax ground attachment of the antenna cable.
If all checks OK secure the ground attachment on the coax with a self tapping screw, securing it to the A pillar (Impala and Monte Carlo Only).
If securing the ground attachment on the coax does not restore the RKE range replace the RCDLR and follow programming and setup procedures.
Note:: Verify you are using TIS to Web or the latest TIS calibrations so the RCDLR will be programmed with the updated software.
RKE becomes inoperative while programming another module on the vehicle: This may occur during programming of any module on the vehicle or from normal operation.
Do not replace the RCDLR
Program RCDLR with the latest S/W available in TIS (New S/W released 9-18-06)
New RKE Transmitters Will Not Program or Inoperative
Press Lock, Unlock and Panic together and hold for 3-5 seconds.
Perform transmitter learn procedure.
Verify all functions. This can be done using the scan tool and monitoring the transmitter commands.
If programming is unsuccessful replace transmitters.
Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.
GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
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Document ID# 1864865
2006 Chevrolet Impala
So there are a couple of different concerns and different fixes for those concerns......we've had a lot of poor range/TPS in our area.I don't remeber your exact concern, but your area maybe different for whatever reason. Any way, the fix for my car (poor range/TPS light) worked.
The PI on this issue is PIC3764M...give them that. Here is how it reads......
Document ID# 1864865
2006 Chevrolet Impala
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Subject: Remote Keyless Entry (inop/Intermittent Function) Or Tire Pressure Monitor Concerns - keywords fob RCDLR RKE RVS start TIMS TPM transmitter vehicle #PIC3764M - (09/29/2006)
Models: 2006-2007 Buick Lucerne
2006-2007 Cadillac DTS
2006-2007 Chevrolet Impala and Monte Carlo
2007 Cadillac Escalade and SRX
2007 Chevrolet Avalanche, Suburban, Tahoe, Equinox
2007 GMC Yukon and Yukon Denali
2007 Pontiac Torrent
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This PI was updated to add the 2007 Cadillac SRX, to add additional keywords. and to add a note about following SI programming instructions. Please discard PIP3764K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
The vehicle may exhibit one or more of the following conditions:
• The RCDLR and RKE Transmitters will not function after the serial data bus has gone to sleep.
• Intermittently inoperative Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) - A condition of intermittent operation of the RKE transmitters (key fobs) has been identified. The RKE transmitter rolling codes may become out of synchronization with the RCDLR and cause an intermittent operation of the door lock/unlock feature or remote start
• Poor RKE range and/or Service Tire Monitor System message
• RKE inoperative after programming any module on the vehicle
• New RKE transmitters cannot be programmed
The RKE and Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) are functions of the Remote Control Door Lock Receiver (RCDLR) with the exception of the 2006 Lucerne which uses the EBCM since there are no tire pressure sensors mounted inside the wheels.
Recommendation/Instructions:
Caution: When programming a new or existing RCDLR the programming instructions in SI for the must be followed. On vehicles equipped with Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPM), if the tire type and tire pressure are not selected in module setup on the Tech 2, the RCDLR will not retain the tire pressures after the TPM system is learned.
RCDLR and RKE Transmitters Will Not Function After the Serial Data Bus Has Gone to Sleep:
Open the door to wake up the serial data bus, then verify the RCDLR functions normally.
Program with the latest software available in TIS (New S/W released 9/18/06)
Note:: Do NOT replace any parts.
Intermittently Inoperative Remote Keyless Entry (RKE):
Verify the synchronization concern by relearning the transmitters to the vehicle.
If the transmitter operation returns to normal following the relearn function the correction would be to reprogram the RCDLR with the latest software calibration.
If the transmitter operation does not return to normal then replace the transmitters with current SPO stock. All old stock has been purged. Do NOT replace the RCDLR or BCM for this condition.
Poor RKE Range and/or Service Tire Monitor System (TPM lost individual sensor data)(Applies to Car models only):
Follow the diagnostic system check, are there any related DTCs? Are there any DTCs in the RCDLR? If yes follow published diagnostics.
Verify External Antenna Coax connections at the RCDLR and at the glass.
Check for proper coax ground attachment of the antenna cable.
If all checks OK secure the ground attachment on the coax with a self tapping screw, securing it to the A pillar (Impala and Monte Carlo Only).
If securing the ground attachment on the coax does not restore the RKE range replace the RCDLR and follow programming and setup procedures.
Note:: Verify you are using TIS to Web or the latest TIS calibrations so the RCDLR will be programmed with the updated software.
RKE becomes inoperative while programming another module on the vehicle: This may occur during programming of any module on the vehicle or from normal operation.
Do not replace the RCDLR
Program RCDLR with the latest S/W available in TIS (New S/W released 9-18-06)
New RKE Transmitters Will Not Program or Inoperative
Press Lock, Unlock and Panic together and hold for 3-5 seconds.
Perform transmitter learn procedure.
Verify all functions. This can be done using the scan tool and monitoring the transmitter commands.
If programming is unsuccessful replace transmitters.
Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.
GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION
© Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
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Document ID# 1864865
2006 Chevrolet Impala
So there are a couple of different concerns and different fixes for those concerns......we've had a lot of poor range/TPS in our area.I don't remeber your exact concern, but your area maybe different for whatever reason. Any way, the fix for my car (poor range/TPS light) worked.
