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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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I wanted to see who is running LT1/LT4 with 1.6 Roller Rockers and if there was any HP gain and 1/4 mile benefit from them?
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever
I wanted to see who is running LT1/LT4 with 1.6 Roller Rockers and if there was any HP gain and 1/4 mile benefit from them?
On the stock cam?
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Stock cam as of now, but bigger cam is in the plans
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Well going with 1.6's over your 1.5's there will be a gain, you'll gain more lift and your freeing up your valvetrain friction. So there will be some gain. If you don't plan putting a cam in, in the near future I would probably consider scorpion 1.7's instead.

either way they're a good mod.
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Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever
Stock cam as of now, but bigger cam is in the plans
It will help some now, not a whole lot, i'd GUESS 3-4 hp. Most guys upgrade to 1.6's once they swap cams, don't think i've seen very many guys with 1.5's and aftermarket cam. So, if you found a good deal on some, pick em up as you can use them later anyway. My 2 cents.
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This is the cam that is in the mail, I wanted to try to figure what the HP gain would be with 1.6's on this cam then
Comp Cams XFI LT1 Camshaft, 242 / 248, .584 / .579 113 LSA
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Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever
I wanted to see who is running LT1/LT4 with 1.6 Roller Rockers and if there was any HP gain and 1/4 mile benefit from them?
It's around a 8-10 hp gain
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Well according to the gm performance parts catalog. Short of the better flowing heads. a stock lt4 was an lt1 cam with 1.6 rockers on it.
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It's around a 8-10 hp gain
Thanks, did you pick up any time in the 1/4?
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1.6s add 8 to 10 hp on stock cam?? Interesting.
Whats the gain with 1.7s on a stock cam?
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Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever
Thanks, did you pick up any time in the 1/4?
Haven't ran yet the car is still under the knife. There are so many variables that come into play at the track as far as times go. The rockers are something you would notice more up top at higher rpm's if you did notice anything. By the time you got done with the 1/4 I would doubt they would make any difference with times. But I'm really not experienced with this situation so I can't be certain. If you are looking for a good runs I would suggest some Mickey T drag radials
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Some one donate me some rockers and i can give you dyno results 1.5 1.6 1.7
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1.6s add 8 to 10 hp on stock cam?? Interesting.
Whats the gain with 1.7s on a stock cam?
With the LT1....not sure about a LS based car. I just saw he has a LS...
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No I also have a 95 LT1 We are building
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Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
With the LT1....not sure about a LS based car. I just saw he has a LS...
1.7s on a stock lt1 cam.
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Originally Posted by texas94z
1.7s on a stock lt1 cam.
Here is the cam I am going to run and wanted to see what the benefit of 1.6's on this cam would be.
Comp Cams XFI LT1 Camshaft, 242 / 248, .584 / .579 113 LSA
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Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever
This is the cam that is in the mail, I wanted to try to figure what the HP gain would be with 1.6's on this cam then
Comp Cams XFI LT1 Camshaft, 242 / 248, .584 / .579 113 LSA
do yourself a huge favor purchase screw-in studs (7/16) flat guide plates and a set of hardened pushrods....and NEW VALVESPRINGS! DONT BOTHER WITH SA ROCKERS!
if you plan to stay with the stock cam use NSA1.7s if you plan a cam upgrade use NSA1.6s...it is best to plan ahead but not too far where it actually hurts the present!


also i did notice a small gain up top,the car did feel more powerful on roll-races........
reduced friction and added valve lift work nicely together! our cars should have come with real valvesprings,1.6rockers,true duals and coolant level sensors that dont freak out from the factory!

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Originally Posted by 96lt1m6
do yourself a huge favor purchase screw-in studs (7/16) flat guide plates and a set of hardened pushrods....and NEW VALVESPRINGS! DONT BOTHER WITH SA ROCKERS!
if you plan to stay with the stock cam use NSA1.7s if you plan a cam upgrade use NSA1.6s...it is best to plan ahead but not too far where it actually hurts the present!


also i did notice a small gain up top,the car did feel more powerful on roll-races........
reduced friction and added valve lift work nicely together! our cars should have come with real valvesprings,1.6rockers,true duals and coolant level sensors that dont freak out from the factory!
I have hardned push rods and double valve springs already.
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If you're going to upgrade to 1.6 rockers, do it in such a way as to make them
usable if you ever decided to install a cam upgrade.
Quality non-self-aligning rockers, guideplates and quality springs that can handle the lift and lobes.
Hardened pushrods would be nice, but are certainly not a requirement with a stock cam.

Originally Posted by texas94z
1.6s add 8 to 10 hp on stock cam?? Interesting.
Whats the gain with 1.7s on a stock cam?
Gains from increased lift are not as significant as some may tend to believe.
Gains from reduced valvetrain friction and mass are big factors.
Don't expect 1.7 to have a huge advantage over 1.6.

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Well according to the gm performance parts catalog. Short of the better flowing heads. a stock lt4 was an lt1 cam with 1.6 rockers on it.
93-95 LT1 202/207 116 LSA .480/.491 @ 1.6:1
96-97 LT1 200/207 117 LSA .477/.490 @ 1.6:1
.........LT4 203/210 115 LSA .508/.511 @ 1.6:1
HOT CAM.. 218/228 112 LSA .525/.525 @ 1.6:1
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Originally Posted by James Montigny
If you're going to upgrade to 1.6 rockers, do it in such a way as to make them
usable if you ever decided to install a cam upgrade.
Quality non-self-aligning rockers, guideplates and quality springs that can handle the lift and lobes.
Hardened pushrods would be nice, but are certainly not a requirement with a stock cam.



Gains from increased lift are not as significant as some may tend to believe.
Gains from reduced valvetrain friction and mass are big factors.
Don't expect 1.7 to have a huge advantage over 1.6.



93-95 LT1 202/207 116 LSA .480/.491 @ 1.6:1
96-97 LT1 200/207 117 LSA .477/.490 @ 1.6:1
.........LT4 203/210 115 LSA .508/.511 @ 1.6:1
HOT CAM.. 218/228 112 LSA .525/.525 @ 1.6:1
What size cam are you running?

Also what HP are you expecting to put down with the 383?
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