LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

98-02 brake conversion?

Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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i remember reading in gmhtp that the 98-02 brakes were bigger and more stopping power then the 93-97 brakes wat do i need to convert them?
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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I can get a whole rearend at the local yard for $400 and I bought my first one for $350. You could probably do the same and have everything you "may" need. I think they mainly have better PBR calipers and thicker rotors.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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everything from the steering knuckle out (including the knuckle)

the later model brakes have a bracket that holds the pads in that bolts to the knuckle, then the unloaded caliper bolts to the previosuly mentioned bracket.

compared to the LT1 stuff, that you load the brake pads in to the caliper, and bolt it on to the knuckle, similar to any other domestic vehicle built before the 90's.

the LS1 brakes are a little bigger in OD and I think they are thicker, and the calipers are aluminum dual piston units, rather than the old-school cast iron single piston crap... just by reading this you can imagine how much better they will help your car stop, and reduce fading when you're really hard on 'em too.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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everything from the steering knuckle out (including the knuckle)

the later model brakes have a bracket that holds the pads in that bolts to the knuckle, then the unloaded caliper bolts to the previosuly mentioned bracket.

compared to the LT1 stuff, that you load the brake pads in to the caliper, and bolt it on to the knuckle, similar to any other domestic vehicle built before the 90's.

the LS1 brakes are a little bigger in OD and I think they are thicker, and the calipers are aluminum dual piston units, rather than the old-school cast iron single piston crap... just by reading this you can imagine how much better they will help your car stop, and reduce fading when you're really hard on 'em too.
ok this might be a really noob ? but the steering knuckle is the part that connects with both A arms correct or no?
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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sprindles, rotors, calipers, pads and hoses. go with C5 brakes and dont look back!
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by crookedbowtie
I can get a whole rearend at the local yard for $400 and I bought my first one for $350. You could probably do the same and have everything you "may" need. I think they mainly have better PBR calipers and thicker rotors.
Rearend? I'm sure he's talking about front brakes, and the rear brakes on LS1 cars are no better than ours.

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ok this might be a really noob ? but the steering knuckle is the part that connects with both A arms correct or no?
Yes, like the someone already said, you'll need spindles,brake lines,rotors,calipers,pads,brackets. Most guy's have their for sale for about 200 bucks in the used section, great upgrade for the price!
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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alright sounds great i probably will do this for my budget build need will definatly need a bit more stopping power
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Doesn't someone on Ebay sell a kit or something?
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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i re used my stock lines
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Originally Posted by chavez885
Rearend? I'm sure he's talking about front brakes, and the rear brakes on LS1 cars are no better than ours.
they are bigger and have 2 pistons instead of 1
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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the LS1 brakes also have bigger openings to allow for more pressure vs. the C5 brakes. so you CAN NOT use LS1 camaro/firebird brakes on C5 rotors. your brake bias will be off.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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I have a the parts for sale to convert to the LS1 front brakes, if anyone wants them. $150. PM me for pictures.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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[QUOTE=chavez885;10569737]Rearend? I'm sure he's talking about front brakes, and the rear brakes on LS1 cars are no better than ours.



I get it now, just trying to help. I just hate watching those rears go to waste. I am only familiar with pirating the newer Camaro brakes for old 12/10 bolt rear muscle cars. Isn't there a difference in rear calipers between the 97s and 98s though?

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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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yes. the ls1 rear brakes are slightly bigger, the parking brake is different and the abs is different
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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Here is a pic of the Brakes, LT1 compared to LS1, and what they will look like assembled..

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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 94LT1Bird
they are bigger and have 2 pistons instead of 1
Not the rear, they are single piston calipers


Originally Posted by chavez885
Rearend? I'm sure he's talking about front brakes, and the rear brakes on LS1 cars are no better than ours.
Gonna have to disagree. The LT rear brakes incorporate there parking brake setup through your existing pads and rotors, where the LS1 uses a seperate pad (Mini brake drum setup inside the rotor) it holds 10x better and last alot longer.

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yes. the ls1 rear brakes are slightly bigger, the parking brake is different and the abs is different
The abs is no different between cars. The axles are longer on LS1 rears but no different between 3 channel & 4 channel.

You can swap rear-end between 93-97 & 98-02 without any worries as long as the rear supports your kind of abs system.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Yeah, that internal parking brake is a trick setup, and looks clean!
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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picked up a set of ls1 front brakes today in good condition will i need to do anything to make these work or just bolt them in?
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Yup i just bought 2 sets (1 for my car and one for a buddy) Gotta go to orlando to pick them up tomorrow. Thanks for the pics merv i was curious on the differences
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by z28rob18
picked up a set of ls1 front brakes today in good condition will i need to do anything to make these work or just bolt them in?
as long as all the parts are good you should just be able to bolt them right in.
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