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driveshaft is locked in neutral wtf??

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Old 09-29-2009, 11:20 AM
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I was under my car tinkering this weekend just tightening bolts and such. When I went to spin the driveshaft with the car in neutral it would not move. I verified it was in neutral and tried again. No luck. The car runs and drives fine with no issues except a small deceleration noise from the rear end. The 10 bolt I have in it right now is being chucked this winter for something a lot stronger. Feel free to chime in as I'm open to suggestions. The ds was balanced this year with new U-joint and it is an M6 car.
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uh, did you have the back wheels on the ground?
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of course not. it was on jackstands on all 4 corners.
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was the ebrake on?
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Are you sure your in neutral?
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were you turning the wheel or the DS, and as already stated, is the e-brake on?
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What size wheels do you have on it. If the offset is enough one of the wheels could be sitting against the bump stops. Had this problem with my 17x11's when the car was in the air.

That or your ebrake may be contacting even with it off.
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Yes it was in neutral, E- brake was off, and it had the stock salad shooters on it. The wheels turn freely but when when turn from the driveshaft it is locked. It doesn't matter about the E-brake anyway cause it doesn't work. This is my fifth f-boby and I'm familiar with many of the common problems these cars have and several not so common ones. I dont mean to sound like a dick ,but I'm not a noob. I have been driving stick for almost 15 years so I think I would know if its in neutral. Could this be a trans issue, or could it do with my rear end whine. The rear end is a donor from a 2001 SS camaro, welded tubes,zexel torsion posi, Motive 4:10 gear, and moser 28 spline axles. It has royal purple max gear lube.
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it doesnt matter if its your 25th f body and your the lt1 god. your still going to slip up and make a stupid simple mistake. its human nature. if your saying all those things are true, then im unsure of to why your driveshaft wont turn? did you try and turn it by hand? or did you put a screwdriver in the yoke and turn? if it drives fine, i wouldnt worry to much about it....
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Originally Posted by Schweet97Z
it doesnt matter if its your 25th f body and your the lt1 god. your still going to slip up and make a stupid simple mistake. its human nature. if your saying all those things are true, then im unsure of to why your driveshaft wont turn? did you try and turn it by hand? or did you put a screwdriver in the yoke and turn? if it drives fine, i wouldnt worry to much about it....
Agreed. Which is why I stated the way I did that I'm not a noob I wouldn't waste the forums time with this if it was me forgeting to put it in nuetral or leaving the tires on the ground. This is a legitimate question that has me stumped and trying to get information. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't tearing up my drive train or my trans was going out. Thats all. I did try tuning it both ways by hand first and with a screwdriver second.
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Does the driveshaft move an inch or two and then hit a stop? Or does it not budge even a little bit?
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Make sure your exhaust or suspension isn't hitting one of the u-joints. I had that issue with my Loudmouth, with the suspension unloaded the I-pipe was resting against the rear u-joint.
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It moves an inch or two and then stops. I checked it doesnt appear anything is hitting or binding against the ds.
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My ds is a pain to spin by hand but if you spin the wheels it moves very easy.
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yup i had an issue w/ my duals hitting the back of my driveshaft when my suspension was fully unloaded
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Well I still had it up so I went and tries spinning the tires first and it moves. So I guess that means there is nothing to worry about then?
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It's a leverage thing. When the suspension is unloaded (like yours was) and the angle between the driveshaft and pinion yoke is extended, it takes more leverage to spin. The tire/wheel provides much more leverage than just trying to spin the driveshaft (much smaller lever).

There's nothing wrong.
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yeah nothings wrong its actually tuff to spin even with the DS disconnected from the rearend. I had to have my brother help spin it while we pushed it back on since the strange yoke is a tight fit and its a bitch to spin
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Huh..I've never had a problem spinning mine.
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my ds turns freely but my buddies 97 ss does this.. idk!! hmm


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