nik1703

Mods are in my sig, more or less full bolt on except gears.

I'm assuming my next step would be a cam - but that's damn near $1200 in parts just to gain 40-50rwhp. If I pick up a used NO2 kit I can spray a 100 shot all day long for 300 bucks. What does it really cost to fill that bottle up all the time?

What do you guys would be a better option for me? (daily driver by the way)

myltwon

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$25-35 depending on local cost. n2o will definately be easier on the wallet and effect daily drivability, gas mileage, etc. less but **** can happen when you spray so who knows

either route you go make sure you get a good tune.

my cam swap wasn't that much btw but I'm a cheap ***
-used cc503 $130 shipped
-new comp hardened pushrods $25
-new crane 10308-1 springs $180
-new comp magnum rockers $180
-new timing chain $20

then of course you have gaskets and fluids + tune but you'll want to get a tune if you spray it also

nik1703

I need a new tune for NO2?

94Z28rag

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4.10s.

nik1703

I'm not too interested in blowing out my diff. lol. Everyone I hear with a stock rear end and 4.10s through an M6 is blowing diffs left and right

94Z28rag

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You don't "need" to do anything for N2O, it just depends on how often, how hard, how big, and how smart you want to be about the setup.

Contact a vendor and do some reading, there's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it...and I can tell you that the right way costs more than $300.

myltwon

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you'll want to tune it for n2o just to be safe, never know if you're really getting enough fuel, safe timing, etc

but then again I sprayed a 180 dry shot untuned for like 2 years so who am I to say anything lol

best and safest gains will be had with a tune when using nitrous.

nik1703

Ahhh I see. I suppose I should get a new tune anyways - for some reason i'm getting like 7 miles to the gallon. Can anyone chime in on that? (doesnt seem to be running rich)

myltwon

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well if you're getting 7 mpg in a bolt on lt1 something is very wrong, like o2's or bad plugs

94Z28rag

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How many miles on your original O2 sensors???

nik1703

Just replaced the O2's... nothing changed!

You guys think it's the plugs? Holy **** is that job a bitch. I'd have to remove my shorties to do it.

myltwon

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oh dang...you got shorties?

gregrob

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4:10's. Im not "blowing diffs left and right".

That and long tubes with a cutout would make your car a whole new animal.

You have ewp?

nik1703

LT's would really make that much of a difference? I don't really want cutouts... the car is superloud as it stands and I don't want trouble from the cops! haha.

I don't have an EWP. I'll just hang on to my stocker until it goes.. then upgrade.

gregrob

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Thats the point of a cutout, close it when in town, open when racing.


What kind of shorties do you have? If theyre 1 5/8" primaries especially you definitely notice a difference.

Wont be huge, but noticeable.

nik1703

I'm not entirely sure, most of the exhaust work was done by the previous owner. I suppose I could measure them though? At what point do I measure them?

Also, lets say I didn't install new headers and just welded in a cutout (I have one large 3in going back), would I see any gains from that? (before or after cat?)

gregrob

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The headers are the restriction at this point, the loudmouth is pretty free flowing, that's why its so loud.

You would see a lot more gain going to longtubes.

Gears
LT's
Cutout

That is the order of effectiveness, gears will make the most difference, then LT's, then Cutout

94Z28rag

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Like I said...4.10s.

tbird31

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agreed.

For those who say they're blowing them left and right, apparently haven't been setup correctly or they're just thrashing the everliving **** out of the car.

nik1703

What about 3.73's? worth it?