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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
It hits a wall like a rev limiter.
Are you absolutely sure about that? rskrause has reported using the stock PCM to 8,000rpm. I shift at 7200rpm and it's completely happy.
They way I understand it is there are no spark curves or fuel maps past 7200rpm for an OBDII PCM, but will keep using the last known data past the rpm threshold.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Probably not for the simple fact that whenever budgeting something like this you need to multiply the amount to at least half the total cost if not double. That's after everything is said and done/turn key, locked, cocked and ready to rock.
This is very true. I have spent way more over my initial intentions. Not a big deal, but the small costs will add up quick.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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My OBD1 shuts down at 7100 ish.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Probably not for the simple fact that whenever budgeting something like this you need to multiply the amount to at least half the total cost if not double. That's after everything is said and done/turn key, locked, cocked and ready to rock.
Very logical and realistic input of advice! Coming from the opinion of a Finance major
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Yeah must be OBD2 b/c mine hits a limiter at 7krpms. If you want a 10second N/A LT1 with LE3's on it, I'll sell you mine also. It's new with 5 passes on it for way under 10k, bolt in and go fast. Later Clint
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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thanks for the offer but i think im gonna build my own. ive decided to go with a forged 383, keep my LE2 heads (upgrade to LE3 if its in the budget), bigger cam, Single plane, MSD6AL2, Standalone nitrous plate kit. with the way the chassis is setup that should easily put me into the 10s n/a and hopefully 9s on the jug
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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I've got a converter you may be interested in, its a 4000 stall vigilante with a three plate lockup disc in it good for spray. PM me if your interested.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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its getting a TH400 with the new motor, its currently a 6spd
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Are you absolutely sure about that? rskrause has reported using the stock PCM to 8,000rpm. I shift at 7200rpm and it's completely happy.
They way I understand it is there are no spark curves or fuel maps past 7200rpm for an OBDII PCM, but will keep using the last known data past the rpm threshold.
I agree, your stock opti and pcm should be able to meet your goals you just need to rivet up your opti..altho if your up to it I'd swap in an LS1 pcm to be on the safe side.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Just waiting on a price for my short block, heads won't cost me anything so the cost should be way under 10k. Just need to price my stand alone nitrous kit
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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what are you doing for nitrous, a plate?

what are you doing for the nitrous tune/timing retard?
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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Yes, because I'm going with a single plane I have less to worry about with the nitrous distribution since it's equal distance to every cyl from the plate unlike the regular lt1 intake, unless you go direct port I'm getting an msd 6al2 to pull timing and if that's not enough I'll get the msd setup so I can adjust the base timing. I was told you can go as low as 14* before you need to worry about the base timing
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:32 AM
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86, I was going to build a standalone for my kit too. I have since decided to switch to E85 and eliminate the need for the it.

You can switch for way cheaper than buying a nice standalone and always have a 105 octane fuel in the tank. Not to mention the power benefits to be had..

Just something to think about.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 86formula
thanks for the offer but i think im gonna build my own. ive decided to go with a forged 383, keep my LE2 heads (upgrade to LE3 if its in the budget), bigger cam, Single plane, MSD6AL2, Standalone nitrous plate kit. with the way the chassis is setup that should easily put me into the 10s n/a and hopefully 9s on the jug
cool beans! good luck, i hope it turns out well for ya. i know alot of boosted guys are real happy with the 6al-2 also.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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stand alone nitrous setup is totally FTW. im gonna do the same thing on my car. 1 gallon of c16 will last alot longer than it would mixing it in your tank, yet another way to save cash.

check out a holley blue fuel pump. you can nab em cheap on ebay. plenty of fuel for a standalone setup, and at 30 bucks shipped you cant beat the price. you can get fuel cells cheap on ebay too. 69 for a plastic 1 gallon, 95 for an AL.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gregrob
86, I was going to build a standalone for my kit too. I have since decided to switch to E85 and eliminate the need for the it.

You can switch for way cheaper than buying a nice standalone and always have a 105 octane fuel in the tank. Not to mention the power benefits to be had..

Just something to think about.
i would but E85 isnt really available much of anywhere in my area

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stand alone nitrous setup is totally FTW. im gonna do the same thing on my car. 1 gallon of c16 will last alot longer than it would mixing it in your tank, yet another way to save cash.

check out a holley blue fuel pump. you can nab em cheap on ebay. plenty of fuel for a standalone setup, and at 30 bucks shipped you cant beat the price. you can get fuel cells cheap on ebay too. 69 for a plastic 1 gallon, 95 for an AL.
thanks man, i appreciate you making me think twice about the fast setup. the stand alone not only makes it safer for me to spray with a gallon of C16 but if i bump it up to a 300 shot to see what it can do, i dont have to worry about not having enough fuel. ill look into that fuel pump
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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yea, no problem man. having money to spend on other sh*t is always fun.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
If your not going to spray it or force air through it we offer a LT1 408. We can bring the long in for the 10k not a problem. How much HP your looking for will determine the top end costs but we've built these before and made 500+ rwhp through and auto so it can be done.
What?!
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by blackz93
What?!
That's not really a big number for a 408ci engine.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 94Z28rag
That's not really a big number for a 408ci engine.
500 through a stalled auto is huge.
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