LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

just talked to Lloyde about new cam

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Old 12-08-2009, 11:15 AM
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Default just talked to Lloyde about new cam

so far we are thinking 232/240 .592/.592 and 108 lsa
does anyone have a grind close to this?
what kind of drivability does it have?
any horsepower numbers?
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Originally Posted by kalebm22
so far we are thinking 232/240 .592/.592 and 108 lsa
does anyone have a grind close to this?
what kind of drivability does it have?
any horsepower numbers?

I thought all those grinds were confidential. This is the first post I've seen where someone has been open enough to give relinquish grind numbers.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
I thought all those grinds were confidential. This is the first post I've seen where someone has been open enough to give relinquish grind numbers.
no this is alot like his off the shelf cams but i picked out the specs he just took a couple degrees of duraation off of it. so its not one of his top secret grinds or anything.
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I dunno where you've been, but Lloyd specs his own now and shares his cam specs all the time. You're thinking back to the days when Bret did his cams
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Originally Posted by kalebm22
so far we are thinking 232/240 .592/.592 and 108 lsa
does anyone have a grind close to this?
what kind of drivability does it have?
any horsepower numbers?
Since you spoke with Lloyd, he should've answered all your questions.
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Originally Posted by Colin91Z
I dunno where you've been, but Lloyd specs his own now and shares his cam specs all the time. You're thinking back to the days when Bret did his cams
Or those top secret Joe Overton grinds!
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Or those top secret Joe Overton grinds!
I wasn't into the LTx scene when Joe O was still doing his top secret grinds.
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Originally Posted by BOLO
Since you spoke with Lloyd, he should've answered all your questions.
+1 He should have answered all those questions for you. He did mine when I first dealt with him.
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well i was looking for some real world results. i have just been emailing him, i dont want to take up to much of his time until i am ready to purchase the cam.
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Originally Posted by Colin91Z
I wasn't into the LTx scene when Joe O was still doing his top secret grinds.
You didn't miss anything. That is pretty much when the Beast of Mediocrity was born.
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I have a secret spec Joe O. cam in my L98 with a miniram and it is VERY similar to the one you are looking at. Driveability is okay...but the tune helps with that (lots of timing). However, my car would certainly run better with more compression...which your LT1 should have (I am just under 10:1). I need a booster for the power brakes. With more compression, I probably wouldn't. It idles at 900RPM. Pulls to 7000RPM (I shift at 6800). It has gone a best of 11.60 at 117MPH in my 1990 IROC. I think you'll be happy with it. The guy who built mine had it on a dyno...I think it was just over 400HP to the rear wheels through a 3600RPM stall.
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So much wasted time and energy, for the engine's sake, if making that kind of power to 7000rpm...
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"So much wasted time and energy, for the engine's sake, if making that kind of power to 7000rpm..."

Not sure I'm following you. I shift at 6800RPM because the engine makes peak around 6400. Leads to my best times at the track. It pulls pretty hard to 7000, but doesn't run any faster (I have tried various shift points). The stock bottom L98 doesn't mind...
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Originally Posted by pancherj
"So much wasted time and energy, for the engine's sake, if making that kind of power to 7000rpm..."

Not sure I'm following you. I shift at 6800RPM because the engine makes peak around 6400. Leads to my best times at the track. It pulls pretty hard to 7000, but doesn't run any faster (I have tried various shift points). The stock bottom L98 doesn't mind...
SS RRR, in his usual tactful way, in his own opinion, is stating that your setup and results suck.

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Oops! Quoted wrd1972's HP numbers by accident. Meant to post SS RRR's.

I thought this whole thread was about driveability of that cam? Was just trying to post my real-world experience with a very similar setup.
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Originally Posted by pancherj
Oops! Quoted wrd1972's HP numbers by accident. Meant to post SS RRR's.

I thought this whole thread was about driveability of that cam? Was just trying to post my real-world experience with a very similar setup.
That's what the OP was looking for, something to compare it to. The cam first mentioned by the OP is close to what I'd like to move up to. That and raise the compression a little.
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Originally Posted by pancherj
Oops! Quoted wrd1972's HP numbers by accident. Meant to post SS RRR's.

I thought this whole thread was about driveability of that cam? Was just trying to post my real-world experience with a very similar setup.
drivability was part of wat i wanted to know, i know i will be able to make it work with my stall. i just didnt know if the lsa would make it rough at low rpms. i was really wanting to know wat kind of power people have seen with a cam that has about these specs made so i could compare mine
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what size motor you putting it in and what compression?

my LE grind for my 383 is fairly similar but with less lift and a tighter LSA. made around 380~rwhp through an unlocked stall and peaks around 6000-6100rpm. no idea on track times but runs right with cars that trap 117-120mph

I didn't want to spin mine too high and have only .600 lift springs so I went a little milder
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
SS RRR, in his usual tactful way, in his own opinion, is stating that your setup and results suck.
Don't assume what I've said. I thought we've been through this "quick to turn on the vagina water works" horse **** with your last tirade?
What I said is exactly what I meant. An output of 400rwhp at 7000rpm is wasted energy and time compared to what is available today with the same results at far less RPM which means not having to run as much gear which then equates to a longer living engine.
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Your right. One should not feel offended by being told they wasted their time and energy on their project cause their performance is X HP at X RPM. I will assume it was some kind of funky positive reinforcement. Um yeah.



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