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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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I have a High volume oil pump that I already ordered, The only thing is i have a stock oil pan, if I just add an extra quart, will this keep the pan from running dry, because I have every thing off and ready to go.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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the general consensus is a high volume will suck your pan dry. Unless you have some major bearing clearances a high pressure one is more than adequate. BUT I used the excuse of having a melling select 10% volume to get a canton pan.

I wouldn't add any extra, the oil sloshing around the reciprocating assembly isn't good
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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You don't want to run an extra quart over anyway. Go with a standard volume, high pressure.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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HV oil pump + stock pan + stock drive = FAIL!
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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An extra quart in a stock pan = more oil foam than you know what to do with. And that foam = a dead engine in very short order.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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I did heads and cam on my 96 impala in 07 and installed a melling select pump #10551,hv hp.Stock pan no extra oil added and it is driven hard daily.It has 50 psi at 80 mph and 25 psi at idle hot,65 psi at cold start.I don't think any pump can pump a pan dry.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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^^ What kind of cam do you have,billet or cast? How many miles are on it? Be carefull .....
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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new LT4 hot cam, ported intake and throttle body, stock rear end, stock transmission, I already have the oil pump in my garage and the oil pan off so i would like to just install the HV oil pump it is part number #12555884 on pace performance... let me know what you guys think
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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I just recently removed my Melling chinese piece of garbage and bought a Titan. If you are going to stick with the spur/gear style I would go with a high pressure pump and stay away from the HV version.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ohio96ss
I did heads and cam on my 96 impala in 07 and installed a melling select pump #10551,hv hp.Stock pan no extra oil added and it is driven hard daily.It has 50 psi at 80 mph and 25 psi at idle hot,65 psi at cold start.I don't think any pump can pump a pan dry.
It can happen. I have read threads from trusted people documenting it (they had the carnage to prove it). Extended high RPM is of particular concern.

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new LT4 hot cam, ported intake and throttle body, stock rear end, stock transmission, I already have the oil pump in my garage and the oil pan off so i would like to just install the HV oil pump it is part number #12555884 on pace performance... let me know what you guys think
With the documentation I have read, I would not use an HV pump. What are you expecting as the benefit? Aside from the issue with the stock pan, there is the drive gear wear and the parasitic loss from turning the larger pump (obvious by the drive gear wear). Unless you have a specific need for more volume, seems to be more negatives than positives. A stock, blueprinted pump with high pressure spring has been known to support a highly modified and blown LT1 with over 1000 HP without issue.

If you go with the HV pump, be prepared to periodically remove the intake and inspect the drive gear. I don't know of how many threads I have read where people were shocked at what they saw. Of course, some had loss of pressure because of a shredded gear.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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HV oil pump, IMHO, is not needed on a "stock" bottom end.

If your builder sets up your bearing clearances so HV pump is of designed benefit, fine.

I have a 383 with the HV (builder set bearing clearances for one) and a stock pan.....don't subscribe to the "it will pump the pan dry" concept....

I did have my intake off 10k miles after build...no "visable" sign of drive gear wear nor has there ever been metal shavings in the oil.

I respect opinions by shbox so I can not discount is notes....just in my case I have not experienced drive gear wear or noticed the pan getting sucked dry...at least OP not indicateing that happened.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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HV oil pump, IMHO, is not needed on a "stock" bottom end.

If your builder sets up your bearing clearances so HV pump is of designed benefit, fine.

I have a 383 with the HV (builder set bearing clearances for one) and a stock pan.....don't subscribe to the "it will pump the pan dry" concept....

I did have my intake off 10k miles after build...no "visable" sign of drive gear wear nor has there ever been metal shavings in the oil.

I respect opinions by shbox so I can not discount is notes....just in my case I have not experienced drive gear wear or noticed the pan getting sucked dry...at least OP not indicateing that happened.
Good to know you don't have issues. But with the many posts I have read going the other way, I won't use one. Not a chance I would want to take with my engine.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shbox
Good to know you don't have issues. But with the many posts I have read going the other way, I won't use one. Not a chance I would want to take with my engine.
I think he already pretty much made that clear.
I respect opinions by shbox so I can not discount is notes....just in my case I have not experienced drive gear wear or noticed the pan getting sucked dry...at least OP not indicateing that happened.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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(builder set bearing clearances for one)
So you walked into an engine shop and said I have this oil pump and I want you to build an engine around it?

A stock replacement pump will work fine with 95% of the engine builds in this section.
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