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Old 03-03-2010 | 12:26 AM
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So I have a auto 383. I have been inclined to buy a Yank stall because they have had a pretty good rep...until late. I made a call to a LT1 turner the other day and it was the complete opposite. I guess they have had some bad luck with Yank stalls recently and I was referred to get a PI. You guys have any input on which way I should go and with what stall?

I am going to be around 400-410 with LE heads, and want the car to be streetable but also quick on the track. btw, I was looking at a Yank SS 3600 if that helps any.
Old 03-03-2010 | 12:42 AM
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I personally have never heard anything but positive remarks about yank converters. I had good luck with mine for the relatively short amount of time that I ran it and I have nothing but good things to say about them. Not to mention yanks customer service is phenomenal, I am sure that if there were any issues with their converters that were attributed to the manufacturer that they would bend over backwards to make sure that they got it right by their customers.
Old 03-03-2010 | 12:54 AM
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does the PI stall compare? I don't know much about stalls :S
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Both are very good manufactuers there are a few others out there also such as CIRCLE D
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I can only tell you how mine runs. I love my Yank SS3600. My buddy also runs a Circle D and is consistently running amazing numbers.
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No matter what stall you get make sure you get a good cooler
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I've been running Yanks for a few years now and not only have the converters performed really well for me but Dave at Yank has been really helpful and has taken very good care of me. I once owned an SS3600 and that was the perfect street/strip stall. I now have a PT4000 and it's been working out really well for me at the track. Soon I'll be purchasing either a SS3200 or SS3600 to toss in our bolt-on GTO. PI also has a great reputation among others like Circle D, FTI etc.

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I say Yank. Quality stuff not to mention he supports the LTX Shootout.
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Old 03-03-2010 | 11:57 AM
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I have only ran Vig and I love it! Here are some videos of my VIG 3600 stall...

http://www.streetfire.net/video/New-...all_726080.htm
http://www.streetfire.net/video/New-...all_726081.htm
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Would that stall still be good on an LT1 like mine, I just have every bolt on..
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Originally Posted by meine96ws6
Would that stall still be good on an LT1 like mine, I just have every bolt on..
3600 would be fine in yours....I ran ss3600 w/bolt ons
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I have had 2 different vig converters and they are top notch you will be fine with either converter. I am currently running a Vig 3600 and its streetable and it hits hard
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well thanks everyone for all the replies.

well I guess I can just get whatever has a good deal going on considering nobody has had a problem with any stalls. lol

Another question, does a stall help with the life expectancy of your tranny and rear end?
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Originally Posted by Quasar94Z28
well thanks everyone for all the replies.

well I guess I can just get whatever has a good deal going on considering nobody has had a problem with any stalls. lol

Another question, does a stall help with the life expectancy of your tranny and rear end?
The exact opposite. I grenaded my tranny a couple thousand miles after I installed my SS3600 years back but I was dumb and didn't run a cooler. Larger the stall, the more heat it will produce and heat is what kills transmissions. The key is to run a quality trans cooler and that will help out alot. We run the B&M 70264's on our cars and if you search you will see that is probaly the most popular unit that the LTx/LSx guys run. The stall will allow the car to launch significantly harder but luckily with the auto you can go pretty far before taking out the rear end. I cut 1.5 60's on my stock 10 bolt and have been beating on it since the day I bought the car.
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Thats why i said get a good cooler, a stall will make the fluid run hotter .
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what kind/brand of cooler would you guys reccomend? I'm also looking into stalls this summer.
Old 03-03-2010 | 03:08 PM
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B&M 70264 is the one i have and alot of lt1 guys and ls1 guys run these with no issues. i think they are like 50 bucks or so.

Application:
Street/Strip
B&M 70264 SuperCooler
B&M SuperCoolers are 100% aluminum construction and use stamped plates sandwiched together to create one of the most efficient oil cooling devices available. Not only does this unique design provide for maximized cooling through more efficient heat dissipation but it also provides a much sturdier cooler which is practically impervious to flying rocks or other debris.

The Super-Coolers that are intended for automatic transmission fluid also offer an additional feature known as Low Pressure Drop (LPD). The coolers assembled with hose barb ends include a unique bypass feature allowing a controlled amount of ATF to bypass the stacked plate core when the fluid is cold. This is beneficial in cold climate areas to guard against lube system failure. Controlled by viscosity, fluid is returned directly to the lube circuit through bypass openings in the stacked plate core. As the temperature increases, more ATF is directed through the core. This highly efficient design combines improved protection against lube system failure with the required levels of optimal heat transfer.
Rated at 14,400 BTU
Dimensions: 11" x 6" x 1-1/2"
Can also be used as an engine oil cooler.
B&M 70264 Supercooler
• the smallest size & lightest weight cooler relative to cooling capacity you can buy.
• Better cooling than ordinary fin & tube coolers.
• Rigid stacked plate design resistant to damage from flying rocks or other debris.
• Pressure tested to 200 PSI.
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great info, thank you.
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i personally have ran both converters. i had a vig 3200 in my ls1 and had no issues at all, i now have a yank in my 97 lt1 and have had no issues. i am happy with both campanies and you wont regret ur choice either way


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