looking for the right heads
#1
looking for the right heads
I am looking at getting heads for my lt1 but am not sure which ones to get.
My mods are:
383 stroker with eagle rotating assembly
12:1 compression
comp cams cam with 510/510 lift and 220/230 duration
Comp cams 1.6 roller rockers
manley valve springs
58mm TB
30lb injectors
ceramic coated headers
CAI
Any info would help. I am looking for a good amount of power and decent price.
Thanks
My mods are:
383 stroker with eagle rotating assembly
12:1 compression
comp cams cam with 510/510 lift and 220/230 duration
Comp cams 1.6 roller rockers
manley valve springs
58mm TB
30lb injectors
ceramic coated headers
CAI
Any info would help. I am looking for a good amount of power and decent price.
Thanks
#2
i would run a cam with more lift an i would get the new profiler sbc head and have it converted to reverse cooliong..the decks are think and good and the head flows 294 at .600,298 at 700 lift and 304 at .800 lift..
there around 1250$ for a set..
heres a thread on them
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=237858
there around 1250$ for a set..
heres a thread on them
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=237858
Last edited by suicidal racing; 04-24-2010 at 05:40 PM.
#3
Definite x2 on the larger cam. Strokers need lots of lift and duration to fill the larger cylinders, and that cam won't even come close to cutting it.
I think ported stock castings will work well for your build (they worked for me). Check out www.advancedinduction.com or www.elliotsportworks.com.
I think ported stock castings will work well for your build (they worked for me). Check out www.advancedinduction.com or www.elliotsportworks.com.
#6
I am looking at getting heads for my lt1 but am not sure which ones to get.
My mods are:
383 stroker with eagle rotating assembly
12:1 compression
comp cams cam with 510/510 lift and 220/230 duration
Comp cams 1.6 roller rockers
manley valve springs
58mm TB
30lb injectors
ceramic coated headers
CAI
Any info would help. I am looking for a good amount of power and decent price.
Thanks
My mods are:
383 stroker with eagle rotating assembly
12:1 compression
comp cams cam with 510/510 lift and 220/230 duration
Comp cams 1.6 roller rockers
manley valve springs
58mm TB
30lb injectors
ceramic coated headers
CAI
Any info would help. I am looking for a good amount of power and decent price.
Thanks
Last edited by Abdullah; 04-25-2010 at 02:18 AM.
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#8
in the world of sbc 23 degree heads trick flow is on the bottom of the list..
you want to know the best heads for as cast an price goes like this
dart 215cc 1500$,brodix 215cc 1500$,rhs 215 1400$,afr 210cc 1550$,profiler 210cc 1250$'s
Now if you want the ulitimate heads and have 3k-6k to blow the run down gos like this
brodix -11s or -10x worked heavy and welded up,rhs heads are nasty also talk to tony at bes,all pro 245s worked over and cfe's 23 degree heads..
in order i know of engines n/a with single carbs from 841hp,860hp,89xhp and around 950hp.
no one i know of has ran a set of extreamly worked over profilers yet in a top n/a class like nmca pro stock or ram racings 10.5 or dr class..
#9
Dude, you are a certifiable ******* retard. I hope you know that. I get appointed sick of people spouting **** they read on the net when they gave never DONE ANYTHING themselves. Just shut the **** up.
OP, call AI, Lloyd Elliott, etc and talk to them. You'll get a lot better info than asking someone on a forum fit advice. I would scrap that cam and get one specd to go with the heads you choose. LE3, AI 200 ate some PROVEN combos. This Brodix this, and trickflow 21 degree that, that everyone is preaching are much less PROVEN and more spendy. Stick with what works.
OP, call AI, Lloyd Elliott, etc and talk to them. You'll get a lot better info than asking someone on a forum fit advice. I would scrap that cam and get one specd to go with the heads you choose. LE3, AI 200 ate some PROVEN combos. This Brodix this, and trickflow 21 degree that, that everyone is preaching are much less PROVEN and more spendy. Stick with what works.
#11
do not waste your money on trick flow junk or ai **** and porting..ill be flat out real with you..get the heads i posted an have them converted..a shop should be able to do it for 200$ extra..
in the world of sbc 23 degree heads trick flow is on the bottom of the list..
you want to know the best heads for as cast an price goes like this
dart 215cc 1500$,brodix 215cc 1500$,rhs 215 1400$,afr 210cc 1550$,profiler 210cc 1250$'s
Now if you want the ulitimate heads and have 3k-6k to blow the run down gos like this
brodix -11s or -10x worked heavy and welded up,rhs heads are nasty also talk to tony at bes,all pro 245s worked over and cfe's 23 degree heads..
in order i know of engines n/a with single carbs from 841hp,860hp,89xhp and around 950hp.
no one i know of has ran a set of extreamly worked over profilers yet in a top n/a class like nmca pro stock or ram racings 10.5 or dr class..
in the world of sbc 23 degree heads trick flow is on the bottom of the list..
you want to know the best heads for as cast an price goes like this
dart 215cc 1500$,brodix 215cc 1500$,rhs 215 1400$,afr 210cc 1550$,profiler 210cc 1250$'s
Now if you want the ulitimate heads and have 3k-6k to blow the run down gos like this
brodix -11s or -10x worked heavy and welded up,rhs heads are nasty also talk to tony at bes,all pro 245s worked over and cfe's 23 degree heads..
in order i know of engines n/a with single carbs from 841hp,860hp,89xhp and around 950hp.
no one i know of has ran a set of extreamly worked over profilers yet in a top n/a class like nmca pro stock or ram racings 10.5 or dr class..
This has to be the dumbest advice on heads he could possibly have gotten.
1. AI and porting your heads = ****? You've just lost all credibility with that statement.
2. who the **** cares what the best as cast heads are? All he should care about is which heads make the most power for what he wants to spend and the setup he is looking for, which for LT1 street cars almost always means ported heads.
3. Did he say his engine was a carb? No.
4. Did he say he was looking to make 950hp with these heads? No.
#12
Advanced Induction:
Fastest NA GM Stock Shortblock LT1 - 10.76 @ 127.9mph w/ 200cc Heads & 227deg HR
Fastest NA GM LT1 headed F-Body - 9.88 @ 138.75mph w/ 200cc Heads & SR on 93 octane
Fastest Power Adder GM LT1 headed F-body - 9.8 @ 156.75mph w/ 200cc Heads & 218deg HR
Fastest NA Impala SS @ 3880lb - 10.6's @ 126mph w/ 200cc Heads & SR
Fastest 4k+ lb GM Stock Shortblock B-Body - 11.9's @ 113mph
Fastest N/A Heads / Cam B body 11.26 @ 119
Most Powerful GM Stock Shortblock LT1 - M6, HR, 453rwhp SAE
Most Powerful GM LT1 Headed - Turbo 355 - 1012rwhp SAE
Most Powerful NA GM LT1 Headed- NA 383 A4 - 552rwhp SAE
Where's your profiler, brodix, dart cars now?
Fastest NA GM Stock Shortblock LT1 - 10.76 @ 127.9mph w/ 200cc Heads & 227deg HR
Fastest NA GM LT1 headed F-Body - 9.88 @ 138.75mph w/ 200cc Heads & SR on 93 octane
Fastest Power Adder GM LT1 headed F-body - 9.8 @ 156.75mph w/ 200cc Heads & 218deg HR
Fastest NA Impala SS @ 3880lb - 10.6's @ 126mph w/ 200cc Heads & SR
Fastest 4k+ lb GM Stock Shortblock B-Body - 11.9's @ 113mph
Fastest N/A Heads / Cam B body 11.26 @ 119
Most Powerful GM Stock Shortblock LT1 - M6, HR, 453rwhp SAE
Most Powerful GM LT1 Headed - Turbo 355 - 1012rwhp SAE
Most Powerful NA GM LT1 Headed- NA 383 A4 - 552rwhp SAE
Where's your profiler, brodix, dart cars now?
#14
I was thinking the same thing.
wtf?
This has to be the dumbest advice on heads he could possibly have gotten.
1. AI and porting your heads = ****? You've just lost all credibility with that statement.1. i didnt say ai does **** work i was making the point you could get a better head the a stock trick flow for the same price and get a head as good as a ported a.i head for half the cost
2. who the **** cares what the best as cast heads are? All he should care about is which heads make the most power for what he wants to spend and the setup he is looking for, which for LT1 street cars almost always means ported heads.Anyone buying heads should care what head is best out the bunch in stock cast forum an quality of the casting..yes i agree he should care about what heads will make the best power for what he wants to spend..why do you think i listed 23 degree heads that all have made 550- high 600hp in pump gas motors that cost half what a ported a.i does
3. Did he say his engine was a carb? No.i know he didnt,i was pointing out what the top heads are for 23 degree heads if he wanted to do an all out nasty motor down the road,why buy heads twice when you can buy ones that will work now for you and later on you can grow into them and have a head ported an worked to support 800+hp n/a or make mid to high 700hp in n2o trim n/a
4. Did he say he was looking to make 950hp with these heads? No.i know he didnt..like i just said above are the reason why i pointed that info out..niether me,you or anyone else but him can say where he wants to be in a yr or so with the car and motor..we all have the hp/go fast bug..when i was younger i swore a low 10 sec street car was going to be plenty for me..2mos later i was building a whole othe sbc engine that mad enough power for low 8s high 7s
wtf?
This has to be the dumbest advice on heads he could possibly have gotten.
1. AI and porting your heads = ****? You've just lost all credibility with that statement.1. i didnt say ai does **** work i was making the point you could get a better head the a stock trick flow for the same price and get a head as good as a ported a.i head for half the cost
2. who the **** cares what the best as cast heads are? All he should care about is which heads make the most power for what he wants to spend and the setup he is looking for, which for LT1 street cars almost always means ported heads.Anyone buying heads should care what head is best out the bunch in stock cast forum an quality of the casting..yes i agree he should care about what heads will make the best power for what he wants to spend..why do you think i listed 23 degree heads that all have made 550- high 600hp in pump gas motors that cost half what a ported a.i does
3. Did he say his engine was a carb? No.i know he didnt,i was pointing out what the top heads are for 23 degree heads if he wanted to do an all out nasty motor down the road,why buy heads twice when you can buy ones that will work now for you and later on you can grow into them and have a head ported an worked to support 800+hp n/a or make mid to high 700hp in n2o trim n/a
4. Did he say he was looking to make 950hp with these heads? No.i know he didnt..like i just said above are the reason why i pointed that info out..niether me,you or anyone else but him can say where he wants to be in a yr or so with the car and motor..we all have the hp/go fast bug..when i was younger i swore a low 10 sec street car was going to be plenty for me..2mos later i was building a whole othe sbc engine that mad enough power for low 8s high 7s
#16
I've got a set of 245rr's.. 370cfm on a 4.030 bore.... how much you wanna pay?
In all reality, the avg joe isn't gonna pay the coin req'd to play w/ these castings.. They're pricey.. They will however blow away any LT1 casting.. i'm quite sure of it.. just not for the 1700 h/c price points L/E,Ai,etc have..
In all reality, the avg joe isn't gonna pay the coin req'd to play w/ these castings.. They're pricey.. They will however blow away any LT1 casting.. i'm quite sure of it.. just not for the 1700 h/c price points L/E,Ai,etc have..
#17
I feel sorry for anyone coming to this site thinking responeses are accurate.
This site used to be great, then it lost many knowledgeable posters to LS and it became decent. Now the responses are usually marginal at best and often are simply wrong.
Why post if you haven't done what you are talking about? Many things can be done, but if you haven't DONE it, you shouldn't post. If you want to post and haven't done it then simply say I think it is possible or in my opinion.
There are soo many incorrect threads on here now the search is close to useless, and if you need help askng a question here is at best a crap shoot.
Before you post ask youself am I adding to the information or just increasing my post count?
This site isn't about people it is about cars and helping people keeping LTX's alive
This site used to be great, then it lost many knowledgeable posters to LS and it became decent. Now the responses are usually marginal at best and often are simply wrong.
Why post if you haven't done what you are talking about? Many things can be done, but if you haven't DONE it, you shouldn't post. If you want to post and haven't done it then simply say I think it is possible or in my opinion.
There are soo many incorrect threads on here now the search is close to useless, and if you need help askng a question here is at best a crap shoot.
Before you post ask youself am I adding to the information or just increasing my post count?
This site isn't about people it is about cars and helping people keeping LTX's alive
Last edited by boosted LT1; 04-25-2010 at 08:16 AM.
#18
I am looking at getting heads for my lt1 but am not sure which ones to get.
My mods are:
383 stroker with eagle rotating assembly
12:1 compression
comp cams cam with 510/510 lift and 220/230 duration
Comp cams 1.6 roller rockers
manley valve springs
58mm TB
30lb injectors
ceramic coated headers
CAI
Any info would help. I am looking for a good amount of power and decent price.
Thanks
My mods are:
383 stroker with eagle rotating assembly
12:1 compression
comp cams cam with 510/510 lift and 220/230 duration
Comp cams 1.6 roller rockers
manley valve springs
58mm TB
30lb injectors
ceramic coated headers
CAI
Any info would help. I am looking for a good amount of power and decent price.
Thanks
What you intend to use the car for will help decide but money often determines the decision
Good luck
Edit I typo'd hp car weighed 3600 race weight and went 7.65 in 1/8
Last edited by boosted LT1; 04-25-2010 at 08:37 AM.
#19
I feel sorry for anyone coming to this site thinking responeses are accurate.
This site used to be great, then it lost many knowledgeable posters to LS and it became decent. Now the responses are usually marginal at best and often are simply wrong.
Why post if you haven't done what you are talking about? Many things can be done, but if you haven't DONE it, you shouldn't post. If you want to post and haven't done it then simply say I think it is possible or in my opinion.
There are soo many incorrect threads on here now the search is close to useless, and if you need help askng a question here is at best a crap shoot.
Before you post ask youself am I adding to the information or just increasing my post count?
This site isn't about people it is about cars and helping people keeping LTX's alive
This site used to be great, then it lost many knowledgeable posters to LS and it became decent. Now the responses are usually marginal at best and often are simply wrong.
Why post if you haven't done what you are talking about? Many things can be done, but if you haven't DONE it, you shouldn't post. If you want to post and haven't done it then simply say I think it is possible or in my opinion.
There are soo many incorrect threads on here now the search is close to useless, and if you need help askng a question here is at best a crap shoot.
Before you post ask youself am I adding to the information or just increasing my post count?
This site isn't about people it is about cars and helping people keeping LTX's alive
#20
do not waste your money on trick flow junk or ai **** and porting..ill be flat out real with you..get the heads i posted an have them converted..a shop should be able to do it for 200$ extra..
in the world of sbc 23 degree heads trick flow is on the bottom of the list..
you want to know the best heads for as cast an price goes like this
dart 215cc 1500$,brodix 215cc 1500$,rhs 215 1400$,afr 210cc 1550$,profiler 210cc 1250$'s
Now if you want the ulitimate heads and have 3k-6k to blow the run down gos like this
brodix -11s or -10x worked heavy and welded up,rhs heads are nasty also talk to tony at bes,all pro 245s worked over and cfe's 23 degree heads..
in order i know of engines n/a with single carbs from 841hp,860hp,89xhp and around 950hp.
no one i know of has ran a set of extreamly worked over profilers yet in a top n/a class like nmca pro stock or ram racings 10.5 or dr class..
in the world of sbc 23 degree heads trick flow is on the bottom of the list..
you want to know the best heads for as cast an price goes like this
dart 215cc 1500$,brodix 215cc 1500$,rhs 215 1400$,afr 210cc 1550$,profiler 210cc 1250$'s
Now if you want the ulitimate heads and have 3k-6k to blow the run down gos like this
brodix -11s or -10x worked heavy and welded up,rhs heads are nasty also talk to tony at bes,all pro 245s worked over and cfe's 23 degree heads..
in order i know of engines n/a with single carbs from 841hp,860hp,89xhp and around 950hp.
no one i know of has ran a set of extreamly worked over profilers yet in a top n/a class like nmca pro stock or ram racings 10.5 or dr class..