93-97 Firebird True Bi-Xenon Projector Retro - NOW ON SALE!!
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Like anything else, everyone's values are different. Thanks for looking.
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so many people bitch and want saying they will buy it while its being designed.. then after its made they all have excuses on why they cant buy it. happens a lot... especially in the cobalt world. looks like a quality piece but i just put in crystal clear headlights.
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Lights are pretty useless if the car doesn't move. Good luck getting it back on the road
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With that said, I've had just about every lighting setup possible on this car from silverstar sealed beams, conversion housings with and without HIDs, a setup similar to this and now the final product you see here. Besides it looking really good, the lighting provides a level of safety I can appreciate driving at night. This kit also brings the cars lighting up to date as just about any car on the road today provides better lighting than what's currently on these cars.
The kit also requires ZERO permanent modification to the car. For those collectors out there unwilling to hack into their car, this is a perfect option as everything can be returned to stock without issue.
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That price is rediculous. For anyone that cares you can buy an HID kit on ebay for $40 brand new with warranty and the lens housings for around $60. I've seen these kits installed and they look no different than this overpriced nonsense.
Maybe you guys that want to make some money off products like this should spend more time researching price brackets people will spend before charging triple what something is worth just to make a buck.
Maybe you guys that want to make some money off products like this should spend more time researching price brackets people will spend before charging triple what something is worth just to make a buck.
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That price is rediculous. For anyone that cares you can buy an HID kit on ebay for $40 brand new with warranty and the lens housings for around $60. I've seen these kits installed and they look no different than this overpriced nonsense.
Maybe you guys that want to make some money off products like this should spend more time researching price brackets people will spend before charging triple what something is worth just to make a buck.
Maybe you guys that want to make some money off products like this should spend more time researching price brackets people will spend before charging triple what something is worth just to make a buck.
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That price is rediculous. For anyone that cares you can buy an HID kit on ebay for $40 brand new with warranty and the lens housings for around $60. I've seen these kits installed and they look no different than this overpriced nonsense.
Maybe you guys that want to make some money off products like this should spend more time researching price brackets people will spend before charging triple what something is worth just to make a buck.
Maybe you guys that want to make some money off products like this should spend more time researching price brackets people will spend before charging triple what something is worth just to make a buck.
There is no argument regarding the cheaper options out there for these cars but performance is a whole different story.
Here is what the current market offers you.
- Hot spots
- Short beam width
- Glare (blinding oncoming drivers)
- Potential loss of high beam function if you buy a low beam only kit
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This next pic is my own vehicle with Hella 165mm Free-Form Housing using a H4 High/Low kit.
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Here is the current production ready kit.
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No doubt these are high quality kits and I am sure they are worth the money. People who have the coin and think this is as cool as I think it is, they will buy it. I have a Camaro though, and I do NOT have the coin for something like this. If I did, better believe I would be getting them. Our factory lights are like having two candles, literally. Good luck on the sales buddy!
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sorry to echo everybody else but, I'm all about better lights on these cars. I dont see how anyone can say the price is ridiculous unless they've personally seen the product and tried it. If these are built to last for years of use and are easy as you say for the install... Its probably worth every penny. How about some photos of parts themselves though?
Camaro folk:
If you dont mind the round head light look vs. square... here's an alternative for us :
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/u/mulgeary/Hella90/
Camaro folk:
If you dont mind the round head light look vs. square... here's an alternative for us :
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/u/mulgeary/Hella90/
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Devil is in the details. If I could make it cheaper while maintaining quality and still keeping myself in business I would. The price will not be for everyone and there are cheaper options. This setup will provide a clean and easy install while taking any guess work out of a custom setup.
Like anything else, everyone's values are different. Thanks for looking.
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I'm not trying to put anyone out of business or talk down on a produce at all. I've been into these cars for years and everytime someone has a good idea it ends up costing way more than what most of us an afford. This is the main reason in my opinion for the lack of new lt1 car parts. Look back at the intakes and heads that were made for our cars over the past few years. They sounded like they were what everyone wanted until the prices got out. Your product looks great and I'm sure you use quality parts but I just can't see spending that much personally.
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sorry to echo everybody else but, I'm all about better lights on these cars. I dont see how anyone can say the price is ridiculous unless they've personally seen the product and tried it. If these are built to last for years of use and are easy as you say for the install... Its probably worth every penny. How about some photos of parts themselves though?
Camaro folk:
If you dont mind the round head light look vs. square... here's an alternative for us :
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/u/mulgeary/Hella90/
Camaro folk:
If you dont mind the round head light look vs. square... here's an alternative for us :
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/u/mulgeary/Hella90/
I will take additional component pictures today for posting to show what is going into the kits. The setup will ship built and only require the protective lens to be sealed to the original headlight retaining ring plus plugging and running the wiring. The entire assembly will fit into the factory headlight bucket for stability and ease of adjustment.
I've seen the setup in your link but it seems the market wants something a bit more suited for the car. I can do something like that but not convinced it will sell. The setup will have to include projectors but something needs to be done to give it a shape more fitting to the car.
I'm not trying to put anyone out of business or talk down on a produce at all. I've been into these cars for years and everytime someone has a good idea it ends up costing way more than what most of us an afford. This is the main reason in my opinion for the lack of new lt1 car parts. Look back at the intakes and heads that were made for our cars over the past few years. They sounded like they were what everyone wanted until the prices got out. Your product looks great and I'm sure you use quality parts but I just can't see spending that much personally.
I can respect that these lights and price point are not for you however your comments were not taken as constructive criticism.
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No amount of talk about durability or pics of you shining lights at a wall make up for a high price. What tests have been done on these lights? Have you run them non-stop for a long period of time to see if they overheat? Have you run them in snow or rain? Just saying they've been on a car for 4 years doesn't say how much you used that car.
If this product is what you say it is there should never be a problem if someone doesn't like it.
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So what do you take it as? Is it really that hard to deal with my opinions of your product?
No amount of talk about durability or pics of you shining lights at a wall make up for a high price. What tests have been done on these lights? Have you run them non-stop for a long period of time to see if they overheat? Have you run them in snow or rain? Just saying they've been on a car for 4 years doesn't say how much you used that car.
If this product is what you say it is there should never be a problem if someone doesn't like it.
No amount of talk about durability or pics of you shining lights at a wall make up for a high price. What tests have been done on these lights? Have you run them non-stop for a long period of time to see if they overheat? Have you run them in snow or rain? Just saying they've been on a car for 4 years doesn't say how much you used that car.
If this product is what you say it is there should never be a problem if someone doesn't like it.
Showing the wall pics is the only way to show the benefit of the kit, otherwise all of these setups look similar head on.
Regarding durability, the projectors themselves are nearly the same as a Infiniti FX suv but these are modded for better output/clarity. Ballasts and lamps have an 18 month warranty. The mounting setup is aluminum and hardware is stainless steel so its likely a car accident would be the only way to make these fail. All the wiring is plug and play from the original headlight socket with quality weathertight components, wiring, and relays. No chintzy cheap stuff here. Temperature issues are no worse than these components in a factory OEM housing.
In the four years I've had the original kit, the car was driven during the night probably half the time and while its not driven in the rain consistently, its been enough heavy storms to show there are zero issues. The protective lens is acrylic and guaranteed not to yellow for 10 years.
I have no problem backing my product or dealing with someone who has a genuine question or concern about the kit. Again, check my feedback and you will see my customer service is second to none.
If you want to continue this conversation, please feel free to PM me. I have nothing to hide and I believe I have shown that, otherwise I would have been dead in the water after my first GP....
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Tomorrow is the last day of the GP! - Video's Posted
Cruising Around - Video camera isn't the best but you can clearly see the controlled light spread in the darker areas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TVhv7WcjlM
Very dark street - Low and High Function Shown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBKGt9CdP0Y