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Old 08-01-2010 | 03:04 PM
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Building a 357 currently, have a few ?'s

Heres the build basic's

2 bolt main
Stock crank
Stock rods, ARP bolts
Forged pistons, 40 over
ARP head bolts
Melling 10554 Oil pump
LE 226/234 stick
Light ported heads/intake (322rwhp w/all boltons, no EWP/Lid, mac headers)
52mmtb/30 lb inj/3.73's/lid
Boltons

I want to find a cheaper forged piston since I will be running stock rods, 2 bolt, stock crank. I dont really want to have a weak link in the bottom end and spoke with the machine shop owner for a bit. He thinks I should use Mahle, but I wanted to see what you guys thought about speedpro, SRP, etc.

The car will see a 150 hit the following year. I may get N20 rings for whatever cheaper piston I get... Just a thought tho, looking for some input?


Next the car will be a DD April to Sept but I want to run all the compression I can. How much do you think I can get away with on DCR/SCR??

I dont want to go above 12.1 tho. It will only get pump gas, 93 in chicago tho so its not too bad.

Any help would be appreciated.

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For a cheap piston speedpro will do the trick at the nitrous level you plan on using.
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well i will probably end working my way up to a 175, and prolly 200 also.
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i would doubt the rods, before i would the speedpro pistons..
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I know there is no ? that the rods will be the weakest link but should I maybe consider a hyper piston?

What about compression?
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Forged Mahle pistons would be a good choice. Maybe go with a forged Compstar rod as well. If it's all apart, you might as well find the coin to eliminate any potential weak links.
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Forged Mahle pistons would be a good choice. Maybe go with a forged Compstar rod as well. If it's all apart, you might as well find the coin to eliminate any potential weak links.


**** I would be happy with scat I beams. My budget is about 1200 more than i planned and I just found out the clutch I have isnt going to last so thats another 450.

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**** I would be happy with scat I beams. My budget is about 1200 more than i planned and I just found out the clutch I have isnt going to last so thats another 450.
Go for it!

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SCA-25700716/
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if i do make a move on the rods should i go 6 inch?
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For a mild street motor, I don't think it will really matter to be honest. Lots of guys swear by the 6", some swear by the 5.7"s.

If it were me though, I'd go with the 6".
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Yeah but than my 2 bolt main is my weak link. If i get rods I may as well do a 4 bolt or at least stud the mains....

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No way. The stock 2-bolts are plenty strong. The only reason I went with a 4-bolt block is because I got a good deal on it - otherwise I would have stuck with the 2-bolt. You're fine with the 2-bolt, especially at your power level. Don't sweat it.
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Alright you talked me into it. It will also allow for me to run the 200 safely, well kind of.

What about my DCR/SCR??
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I think 12.0 static is a good number to shoot for. With that cam your DCR will probably be around 8.4 - 8.8, plenty good for a street motor.
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12.0 for S-comp? Dont you think I will have some tuning issues? it will be a 6month DD.
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SCR has nothing to do with streetability. It's just a static figure, a build number. DCR is what is MUCH more important.

You said you want to run as much compression as possible, right? I'm running at closer to 13.0 and I have no problems (knock, etc.).
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Mahle pistons aren't very nitrous friendly, and I would stick with 5.7 rods if you plan on spraying.
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Mahle pistons aren't very nitrous friendly, and I would stick with 5.7 rods if you plan on spraying.
True - I missed the nitrous part.
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If i am only hiting a 100 shot could I still use a 6 inch rod?
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Originally Posted by slomarao
Building a 357 currently, have a few ?'s

Heres the build basic's

2 bolt main
Stock crank
Stock rods, ARP bolts
Forged pistons, 40 over
ARP head bolts
Melling 10554 Oil pump
LE 226/234 stick
Light ported heads/intake (322rwhp w/all boltons, no EWP/Lid, mac headers)
52mmtb/30 lb inj/3.73's/lid
Boltons

I want to find a cheaper forged piston since I will be running stock rods, 2 bolt, stock crank. I dont really want to have a weak link in the bottom end and spoke with the machine shop owner for a bit. He thinks I should use Mahle, but I wanted to see what you guys thought about speedpro, SRP, etc.

The car will see a 150 hit the following year. I may get N20 rings for whatever cheaper piston I get... Just a thought tho, looking for some input?


Next the car will be a DD April to Sept but I want to run all the compression I can. How much do you think I can get away with on DCR/SCR??

I dont want to go above 12.1 tho. It will only get pump gas, 93 in chicago tho so its not too bad.

Any help would be appreciated.
I ran TRW's aka Speed Pro pistons in my 355 for two years revving it 7000 on stock rods and crank. The Speed Pros are cheap and reliable I'd reccomend them.


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