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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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This is a area in my rebuild, that I am very confounded by, because I hear so many differing opinions.

Can the stock ones last?
Is it worth the expense of an aftermarket full roller?
What are the benefits/disadvantages of a full roller over a solid rocker?

Edit: For what it's worth, I'll be going with at minimum a 226/230 .565/.565 cam, I'll likely go bigger though.

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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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The main advantage of the roller rocker is the loss of friction that the ball and socket cause. This is also one of the weak points. The other advantage of the roller rocker is the tip, it is easier on the valvetip than the stamped style rockers. The stamped style rockes also sometimes interfere with larger diameter valvesprings.

The places I have seen the stamped style rockers fail are the pushrod cup and the bowl and socket area.

With that cam and the pring pressures required I would go with the full rollers for peace of mind.
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Additionally, roller rockers reduce oil foaming and pull oil temps down.
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny-LT1-runner
This is a area in my rebuild, that I am very confounded by, because I hear so many differing opinions.

Can the stock ones last? NO! They were not designed for what you're doing.

Is it worth the expense of an aftermarket full roller? ABSOLUTELY! Chalk it up to the cost of doing business.

What are the benefits/disadvantages of a full roller over a solid rocker? Already given.

Edit: For what it's worth, I'll be going with at minimum a 226/230 .565/.565 cam, I'll likely go bigger though. You DEFINITELY need full RRs; accept no substitute.
I made my responses above.

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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Anyone have a prefered brand?
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Comp for steel, Crane for aluminum.
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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I have also read that a quality name brand steel rocker is better for a heavily street driven car whereas aluminum is better for racing since it doesn't see as much constant run time.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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Anyone have a specific link to a set that they bought, or a good set that they'd recommend? All I'm finding are a 500 dollar set, that are steel for an LT1.
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Comp Pro/Ultra Pro Mags or Crane Golds seem to be the 2 most popular options. No idea where you are seeing 500, the new Ultra Pro Mags are $340 on ebay
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Originally Posted by mean_greenZ
I have also read that a quality name brand steel rocker is better for a heavily street driven car whereas aluminum is better for racing since it doesn't see as much constant run time.
that's sillyness
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 05:12 AM
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the higher the valve lift the more you need a roller rocker from a side loading and geometry perspective (guide wear!)
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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there are several good articles out there to read about rockers. if i can find the rest ill post them. this is a article about stamp steel rockers. While i have read several articles about this i just dont have enough real world experience with this to make a opinion. sorry.

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...ers/index.html

this one is a really good article

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...ign/index.html
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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The stock rocker studs are as weak a link as the rockers (maybe worse). A switch to 7/16" studs should be considerred before buying aftermarket rockers. The best option is shaft rockers.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
that's sillyness
I meant a steel roller rocker like the pro-mag, not a stamped stock one.
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Originally Posted by mean_greenZ
I meant a steel roller rocker like the pro-mag, not a stamped stock one.
Still, that's sillyness.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Still, that's sillyness.
ok.. didn't mean to misinform. i read this on an engine builder forum. it didn't come from me.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mean_greenZ
ok.. didn't mean to misinform. i read this on an engine builder forum. it didn't come from me.
If you didnt know if it was true or not, why post it? Thats how bad info gets out there.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Badazz 97 TA
If you didnt know if it was true or not, why post it? Thats how bad info gets out there.
geez.. i wasn't trying to breed bad info. i posted it to see if anyone else had heard this. i never once argued that it was true or not.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
The best option is shaft rockers.
The best option to **** money away for such a mild application, sure. Shaft mounts shouldn't be in any part of the equation with the above mentioned cam profile.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Therse a good change im selling my brand new still in box LE cam at those specs on a 111 lsa. Only selling to go bigger. PM me if interested, can save you a few bucks.
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