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Old May 13, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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What do I have to remove to be able to remove the rear wheel studs? They are all loose, but there is no way they are going out the back without something being removed.

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there was nothing in my way that I remember LOL what is that
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there was nothing in my way that I remember LOL what is that
I was hoping someone could tell me.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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It looks like the reluctor ring for the abs, and you will have to remove the axle shafts I believe.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Counted Out
I was hoping someone could tell me.
Looks like some sort of reluctor ring, maybe for ABS or traction control or something. Really not sure though.

I could be wrong but I thought the reluctor ring for ABS was on the differential carrier for all 4th gen f-bodies.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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That appears to be your TC (traction control) sprocket ... 3-channel (ABS only) is on the carrier with the sensor in the pumpkin and a 4-channel (ABS & TC) sprocket is on each axle end with a sensor in each backing plate. At least, that is how it is in the 98-02's. Since yours is a '93 (??), it may be set up different, but it still looks like a TC and/or ABS sprocket.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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pull the axle, takes 10-15 minutes taking your time, and the gear oil probably needs to be changed anyway.
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Old May 14, 2011 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue85350
pull the axle
Unbolt pumpkin cover.
Remove small bolt on the side of carrier.
Knock out huge pin thing.
Remove axle clips with magnetic tool.
Pull out axles.
Remove and reinstall studs like a baws.

Refill with 1 bottle of GM limited slip additive and 2ish quarts of 75W90 anything.

This thread has nothing to do with gear swaps, but I think this link will help you if you've never taken apart a 10-bolt diff.
http://www.keliente.com/gears.htm
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Old May 14, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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if there like my 97s then taking the axles out doesnt help, the ring will still be pressed on the axle, you still will need to knock the reluctor ring off the axle so you can get the studs in and out.
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Originally Posted by lttransam
if there like my 97s then taking the axles out doesnt help, the ring will still be pressed on the axle, you still will need to knock the reluctor ring off the axle so you can get the studs in and out.
So basically I'll have to take the car to a machine shop to have the ring removed and pressed back on?
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Originally Posted by guppymech
Here's a thread about removing wheel studs with 4 channel ABS.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...rear-lugs.html
I have NO clue how they are getting the studs through the sensor. The head of the bolt won't clear the ring. I'm going to give it a try though.
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Originally Posted by tbag_skywalker
Unbolt pumpkin cover.
Remove small bolt on the side of carrier.
Knock out huge pin thing.
Remove axle clips with magnetic tool.
Pull out axles.
Remove and reinstall studs like a baws.

Refill with 1 bottle of GM limited slip additive and 2ish quarts of 75W90 anything.

This thread has nothing to do with gear swaps, but I think this link will help you if you've never taken apart a 10-bolt diff.
http://www.keliente.com/gears.htm
Thank you. How to remove the axle was going to be my next question.
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Is that ring for the traction control or ABS?
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Old May 16, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Counted Out
So basically I'll have to take the car to a machine shop to have the ring removed and pressed back on?
Lttransam is correct, got new tires on my dad's TA a few weeks ago and two of the studs broke off when they took the rear left wheel off. The ring needs to be taken off, then pressed back on.

I believe its for the ABS, I could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by Counted Out
Is that ring for the traction control or ABS?
Yes.

Wheel speed sensors/reluctor rings are the source of the signals that feed both sets of calculations. Throttle position makes the difference... assuming you're not braking and accelerating at the same time. If you're running a line lock, obviously you'll be changing to a 3 channel ABS system and ditching traction control or both.

3 channel rear = ABS with pumpkin mounted sensor, no reluctor rings, no traction control. 4 channel rear = ABS & traction control by way of wheel speed sensors/reluctor rings.

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Originally Posted by Gojira94
Yes.

Wheel speed sensors/reluctor rings are the source of the signals that feed both sets of calculations. Throttle position makes the difference... assuming you're not braking and accelerating at the same time. If you're running a line lock, obviously you'll be changing to a 3 channel ABS system and ditching traction control or both.

3 channel rear = ABS with pumpkin mounted sensor, no reluctor rings, no traction control. 4 channel rear = ABS & traction control by way of wheel speed sensors/reluctor rings.
This obviously isn't the original rear-end in my car - my car is a 93 and doesn't have traction control. I am planning on running a line lock though - am I going to run into problems?
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Originally Posted by Gojira94
Yes.

3 channel rear = ABS with pumpkin mounted sensor, no reluctor rings, no traction control. 4 channel rear = ABS & traction control by way of wheel speed sensors/reluctor rings.
To be completely clear, a 3 channel rear control does utilize a reluctor ring. It is bolted between the carrier and the ring gear. A 3 channel does not have the reluctor rings pressed onto each axle end.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianSF-GA
To be completely clear, a 3 channel rear control does utilize a reluctor ring. It is bolted between the carrier and the ring gear. A 3 channel does not have the reluctor rings pressed onto each axle end.
To be even more clear, the reluctor by the ring gear is not bolted on. It is pressed onto the carrier.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Counted Out
This obviously isn't the original rear-end in my car - my car is a 93 and doesn't have traction control. I am planning on running a line lock though - am I going to run into problems?
You may have ABS compatibility issues using the 4 channel rear. It is also going to have separate brake lines to each rear caliper instead of a common tee arrangement like you now have.
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Originally Posted by shbox
To be even more clear, the reluctor by the ring gear is not bolted on. It is pressed onto the carrier.
... to be crystal clear, the reluctor ring is placed on one side of the carrier flange, the ring gear on the other side of the carrier flange and 10 bolts pass through the reluctor ring, the carrier flange and thread into the ring gear ...
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