My stock heads are FUBAR... Ai or AFR next?
09-15-2011, 08:24 PM
#22
You want to have a fast bench or a fast car?
If racing the car is your thing then Advanced Induction should be your choice.
You had the right idea to begin with, why go and make the wrong choice now?
Far as the stroker thing not only is Pat's car the fastest stock shortblock Impala and has the AI heads but his friend Mike Harris has the fastest NA LT1 stroker it also has a AI 200cc heads.
If racing the car is your thing then Advanced Induction should be your choice.
You had the right idea to begin with, why go and make the wrong choice now?
Far as the stroker thing not only is Pat's car the fastest stock shortblock Impala and has the AI heads but his friend Mike Harris has the fastest NA LT1 stroker it also has a AI 200cc heads.
09-15-2011, 08:56 PM
#24
You want to have a fast bench or a fast car?
If racing the car is your thing then Advanced Induction should be your choice.
You had the right idea to begin with, why go and make the wrong choice now?
Far as the stroker thing not only is Pat's car the fastest stock shortblock Impala and has the AI heads but his friend Mike Harris has the fastest NA LT1 stroker it also has a AI 200cc heads.
If racing the car is your thing then Advanced Induction should be your choice.
You had the right idea to begin with, why go and make the wrong choice now?
Far as the stroker thing not only is Pat's car the fastest stock shortblock Impala and has the AI heads but his friend Mike Harris has the fastest NA LT1 stroker it also has a AI 200cc heads.
And the worlds fastest N/A LT1 Joe Overton runs AFR heads, and Tony Shepherd runs AFR heads, and Taner Bosnali runs AFR heads, and Ben Moore runs AFR heads, and blah blah blah..........................................
LOL at AFR being the "wrong" choice according to the guy who's got a 4-colored caprice.
Just for clarification AI does make amazing stuff, but to knock AFR is just ludicrous. They didn't get to the top of the food chain by putting out junk.
09-15-2011, 08:59 PM
#25
As to eneryone else...I'm still contemplating my options...lots to think about here. I'm not going to make any hasty decisions until I think it over few days at least. I do encourage your debate though
, it's good to get some real world experiences and ##s more importantly. Proceed
09-15-2011, 09:42 PM
#29
LOL at all of the name dropping........................
And the worlds fastest N/A LT1 Joe Overton runs AFR heads, and Tony Shepherd runs AFR heads, and Taner Bosnali runs AFR heads, and Ben Moore runs AFR heads, and blah blah blah..........................................
LOL at AFR being the "wrong" choice according to the guy who's got a 4-colored caprice.
Just for clarification AI does make amazing stuff, but to knock AFR is just ludicrous. They didn't get to the top of the food chain by putting out junk.
And the worlds fastest N/A LT1 Joe Overton runs AFR heads, and Tony Shepherd runs AFR heads, and Taner Bosnali runs AFR heads, and Ben Moore runs AFR heads, and blah blah blah..........................................
LOL at AFR being the "wrong" choice according to the guy who's got a 4-colored caprice.
Just for clarification AI does make amazing stuff, but to knock AFR is just ludicrous. They didn't get to the top of the food chain by putting out junk.
I don't knock AFR; I think they have a hell of a racket going! And they have their place in setups like the big guns you named, who have a helluva lot more invested in their heads than $1500....lol!
How much do you have in yours?
They certainly have no place for what the OP has in mind. Sorry, CapriceMGR is right on this one. AFR is the "wrong" choice.
We shouldn't be misleading on a forum like this; we should be helping.
Don't worry, AFR will sell plenty of those awesome $1500 heads to dummies who only read magazines.
09-15-2011, 09:48 PM
#30
LOL at all of the name dropping........................
And the worlds fastest N/A LT1 Joe Overton runs AFR heads, and Tony Shepherd runs AFR heads, and Taner Bosnali runs AFR heads, and Ben Moore runs AFR heads, and blah blah blah..........................................
LOL at AFR being the "wrong" choice according to the guy who's got a 4-colored caprice.
Just for clarification AI does make amazing stuff, but to knock AFR is just ludicrous. They didn't get to the top of the food chain by putting out junk.
And the worlds fastest N/A LT1 Joe Overton runs AFR heads, and Tony Shepherd runs AFR heads, and Taner Bosnali runs AFR heads, and Ben Moore runs AFR heads, and blah blah blah..........................................
LOL at AFR being the "wrong" choice according to the guy who's got a 4-colored caprice.
Just for clarification AI does make amazing stuff, but to knock AFR is just ludicrous. They didn't get to the top of the food chain by putting out junk.
AFRs are only for race cars, and all of their results for years can all be dismissed since they were in purpose built gutted tin cans.
09-15-2011, 09:52 PM
#31
Come on, joelster - Stop the name dropping! Especially when the examples you point out are way the hell out there from what the OP wants to do.
I don't knock AFR; I think they have a hell of a racket going! And they have their place in setups like the big guns you named, who have a helluva lot more invested in their heads than $1500....lol!
How much do you have in yours?
I don't knock AFR; I think they have a hell of a racket going! And they have their place in setups like the big guns you named, who have a helluva lot more invested in their heads than $1500....lol!
How much do you have in yours?
I have no problem with AI stuff, they make an excellent product. I do have a problem with certain AI cheerleaders who bash everything and anything else in the market. There's no need for that. We can debate this stuff all day long. I'm sure Tony Mamo could come in here and say a few things about it as well. He'd probably make a lot more sense then any of the other posts in this thread.
09-15-2011, 11:04 PM
#33
As I read a few posts ago the reason the ai heads lack on the exhaust on the bench is because of test parameters.......see the pipe fixture test info.....the ai heads will intact prob outflow the afrs with the same test parameters........also as capricemgr said.......ai heads make power done end of story.....I ran the ai tfs heads over the afrs and I am closing in quickly on the 9sec bracket wit a naturally aspirated 3300lb stock style trans street car.........you can play flow benches and be the Dyno king......but id rather go down the track fast....
Good luck whichever way you go!!!
Good luck whichever way you go!!!
09-16-2011, 06:42 AM
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You want to have a fast bench or a fast car?
If racing the car is your thing then Advanced Induction should be your choice.
You had the right idea to begin with, why go and make the wrong choice now?
Far as the stroker thing not only is Pat's car the fastest stock shortblock Impala and has the AI heads but his friend Mike Harris has the fastest NA LT1 stroker it also has a AI 200cc heads.
If racing the car is your thing then Advanced Induction should be your choice.
You had the right idea to begin with, why go and make the wrong choice now?
Far as the stroker thing not only is Pat's car the fastest stock shortblock Impala and has the AI heads but his friend Mike Harris has the fastest NA LT1 stroker it also has a AI 200cc heads.
09-16-2011, 08:13 AM
#40
op - in your shoes, I would go AI. disclaimer - I don't have AI, my heads are locally ported by a guy with a solid reputation that I bought 8 years ago. I have no regrets, but if I was doing a LT1 build now, I'd be buying AI, his stuff gets consistent results time and again, it's one less thing to worry about.
if you really don't want stock castings. then you can buy the TFS heads and use them for now. When you're ready, you can send them off to AI to get done.
if you really don't want stock castings. then you can buy the TFS heads and use them for now. When you're ready, you can send them off to AI to get done.