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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:15 AM
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I figured I would start a new thread. NOT to brag about anything, but to document the progress the car will be making.

Here are a few shake down passes with a very conservative tune, stock suspension, and very near full weight, and a DA OF 6990ft.

N/A Pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uKnZlFVG50

Nitrous (150 shot)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDFYjNO-_Tw

Video of the 10.79 @ 126-7 pass is coming.

Combo is 355 LT1 Lloyd Elliott ported TrickFlow 21 degree heads. LE ported stock intake, 13.4:1 compression, Nitrous Outlet Plate Kit, Mild Self Built T-56, Mcleod Street Twin clutch, Dana S60 Rear, 4.30 ratio, trutrac.
28x10.50 Hoosier Stiff Wall Full Slick out back.

There is still a LOT planned for the car. Stay tuned for updates!

1.89 60' N/A (does a nasty hop, then bogs)


1.53 60' on the 11.04 pass

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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:40 AM
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copied from yellowbullet

Nitrous gearing, what neeeds to happen here?

Combo is a 355" LT1, Ported 21 degree trickflow heads, stock ported intake, 13.4:1 Compression, E85, T56 6 Speed Manual Trans 4.30 rear gear
232 238 .629 112 LSA Hydraulic Cam
28x10.50 Hoosier Stiffwall
4.30 rear gear

Took it out for some shakedown passes yesterday, and it will hit the tires super hard, pull the wheels, then set down and bog.

It was cutting 1.89 60' times like this N/A.

I started spraying it on a 150 shot (.062 jet through an EFI Plate) and it started to 60 better, but I would run out of gear before the 1000' mark...

It went 1.56 1.53 on the .062 jet, then 1.49 on the .071 jet

The cam loves to pull at 6700+ but I dont know how far I can take it with the valve train thats in there...

Should I regear for the nitrous, swap to solid valve train and spin it up? What gear should I go with if I regear? I eventually want this car to run 9.90's

Should I get suspension before I do any gear swaps or spin it any higher? I plan on full AFCO Suspension from MADMAN.

Heres a video of an N/A launch at 6200 on the 2 step.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcQc4rK1xiI

Here's a video of an N/A launch at 4800 on the 2 step.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uKnZlFVG50

It is virtually the same 60ft time for both runs. Upping the 2 step and hitting the tires harder had no effect on 60, just a lot more violent in the first 10ft...

Here is a launch on the 150 jets, 1.53 60ft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDFYjNO-_Tw


Any help is appreciated.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:57 AM
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That is MOVING for that DA. How was track prep? Was hoping for better 60's, but I suppose the car isn't even dialed in yet
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:00 AM
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Prep was marginal. The 1.49 on spray is pretty damn good IMO, especially for STOCK suspension. However the N/A 60s are embarrassing lol... Thats the reason for the above post.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:28 AM
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Are you shifting at 6700 N/A? I'm asking cause my cam is 232/240 and according to the dyno power drops off at 6400.

Nevermind. You probably have your cam degreed much differently than mine which moves the rpms higher.

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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 07:46 AM
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i answered you on fb lol.....looks good though.....its a long road stay at it and you;ll get it goin!!!
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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Did you try coming off the clutch slower with the 2 step @ 6200 (n/a)?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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Are you shifting at a higher rpm when spraying?? The Nitrous will allow the motor to be spun higher without falling off, as opposed to a na run.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:36 AM
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What RPM are you running through the traps?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:37 AM
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Qa1,Hal or Strange coilovers
Tubular k and a arms
BMR rear swaybar
BMR sfc
BMR tq arm and LCAs if you don't have them already the car should be fine on that cam but a SR would be the bizzz
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:46 AM
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For the n/a launch i would like to know your tire pressure. I would think around 15 psi at that pressure id try launching around 5
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disregard my post
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 09:05 AM
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Much like choosing torque converters for an auto car you must set this car up for either N20 or N/A. You really can't have the best of both worlds w/out sacrifice somewhere especially when it comes to gear and tire.
www.f-body.org/gears
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bog on 6200 launch, no hook at all on 4800 launch? lol did you change shock settings? id set up the rear shock stiffer to get more wheel speed, too much hook for that hard of a dump. tire psi? you'll do alot better with a DA shock out back
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hmm stock suspension.... you're doing well on the spray, will need adj shock
to accommodate for 150-200 hp difference, or be able to feather the clutch NA
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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You really need suspension man.

You are pissing in the wind trying to set it up to 60' on the stock stuff, when you will have to do all that all over again anyway when you get a real suspension under it...

I would get at least basic suspension parts under it and go from there, before considering a solid roller/valvetrain swap and letting it spin to the PCM limits.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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14psi in the tires. I agree it really needs suspension and that will be next.

I'm also having cam sync issues and that could be my high RPM problem. It really shouldn't hit the "limiter" where it did.

The stock tach is terribly inaccurate and I didn't have black box logging setup for efilive so I didn't log them. Its working now though and I will go make some test hits later and see where it falls off.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Much like choosing torque converters for an auto car you must set this car up for either N20 or N/A. You really can't have the best of both worlds w/out sacrifice somewhere especially when it comes to gear and tire.
www.f-body.org/gears
Agreed! After I made changes to my car to run on spray it never went as fast as it did with a proper NA set up. You also need to gear the car one way or the other. I happen to have 4.10s coming out of my S60 very soon if your interested. As for the suspension I had my best 60s with stock shocks, put in some of the best stuff you can buy and its been tuff getting it dialed but once I do get it figured out it will be awesome!

BTW not bad at all for the first time out and at your DA!
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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whats your rwhp with this combo?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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Are you a nitrous junkie or a casual user? If you try to run both, your car will be a compromise. Gear it to run great n/a and it will max out on the nitrous at 1000ft. One way to do both sucessfully, is to only spray at 1/8th mile tracks. Leave the 1/4 runs for n/a but spray it hard for 1/8th mile runs.
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