Hey guys I just wanted to share an email that I just got from bob at dynaspark and get your guys thought on buying the dynaspark gen III to use with my LTCC.
"We use an AIP sensor which has been very comparable to thedumMitsubishidumsensor and have little to no trouble with it. The warranty, we stand behind out unit and it you have trouble with it sometime in the future the unit is rebuildable and the cost is about $100.00. If you have problems you are always welcome to send the unit in for testing and we normally ask you pay shipping. If there are problems with unit from something we did we will fix it of course for no charge.dum
Delivery time on a Gen3 is about 2 weeks

 

MSD Charges $100 to work on their opti as well.

 

Any one know anything this AIP optical sensor?

 

If you going to spend the coin on both the LTCC and a dynaspark why not just spend a little extra and go 24x? Why take a chance on an expensive setup that still has an opti over a system that is more advanced and less likely to fail? Don't get me wrong it may never fail but why take the chance?

 

Well the only reason I am taking the chance is because the LTCC has been on my car for close to five years now and I really like how it works. If I was starting all over then yes I would go with the 24x but I am not.

 

Understood I don't blame you then.

 

I guess $100 bucks for the rebuild is better than buying a brand new ac deco unit at close to $500 when ever it goes out.

 

I I recently had one rebuilt and the turn around was blazing fast. The only thing reused was the billet base - new sensor, cap, rotor, vent lines, harness, and wiring all sleeved and heat shrinked. Everything is siliconed and sealed, I can't imaging any moisture getting in even if the waterpump blew right above it. The build quality is top notch.

I ran out of money on my build so will temporarily using it until I can afford aftermarket engine management.

 

I with you on using it untill I can afford/benefit from an aftermarket engine management.

 

Sadly everything in my motor was specced for it already, but I ran out of money and am getting impatient . I will be lucky if I can get the cam to even peak on the stock computer LOL.

 

I guess this ends any speculation regarding whether or not they're using Mitsubishi sensors.

 

AIP=All Igniton Products that screwed hundreds of LT1 owners years ago with their crap optis. There was almost a class action suit about it. Trust them if you must. I don't care if their current stuff is any good or not. I think they probably changed their name to get away from the bad reputation they created.

 

^^^ very interesting, is the only way to get ahold of a Mitsubishi sensor is to buy a delco unit?

 

Sucks to hear that they are still using the AIP sensor. The dead one I shipped back to them was an older model using the Mistu OEM sensor...I havent opened it up after getting it back and I probably wont anyway, but it sounds like it now has an AIP one .

Its nice that they protect and cover the unit so well, and the customer service is second to none...but the AIP sensor is a cheap part with a negative track record and shouldn't be in a product that sits way at the top of the price points. A small step up from the no-named $50-60 complete opti chinese knockoffs on ebay, but still not as reliable as an OEM Delco.

Every opti can have issues, even the OEM Delco ones, but at that price point an OEM opti with MSD cap/rotor would probably be the better buy. If you can snag a Dynaspark for quite a bit under MSRP, then it might be worth it for the far superior sealing and cheap rebuild option. $100 for a complete rebuild is a lot cheaper then a new optispark...

 

As of now, yes.

Everyone was raving about the AIP/AllIgnition optis a few years ago, and there was a huge thread on one of the forums of people buying them up. Then, back in 2010/early 2011 a bad batch of sensors was released in. Failure rate skyrocketed, and instead of refunds they decided to change their Ebay seller name from AllIgnition to AIP and start from scratch.

The problem is that Mistu wants a 20k minimum order for their sensor, and they are 40 bucks a pop. That is a shitton of money just for the sensor, and you would need to sell a ton of opti's at a decent price to recoup that kind of investment.

I guess its better then the terrible $100 Chandler Optis, but thats not saying much . Those were probably the same no-name sensor that the $55 ebay special optis were using.

 

Yet again I have to defend Chandler. Working great on my car with no issues since I got it.

 

For every Chandler success story there are two failure stories. You are the minority - hopefully it continues to serve you well.

What's to be taken from this thread is that if you're in the market for an opti, the best choice is AC Delco.

 

I think I am still going with the gen 3 dynaspark, it is still cheaper to have rebuilt than a brand new ac delco and I'm using the dynaspark in conjunction with an LTCC unit.

 

How many times do you foresee having it rebuilt for every AC/Delco or Delphi you would need to replace? My factory optispark lasted over 100K miles. Assuming the average lifespan of the Dynspark is 1K miles, that's one hundred rebuilds. That would buy a lot of OEM optis.

 

I would like to think that the dynaspark unit last alot longer than 1k miles.