This Cam Seem Good On Stock ShortBlock?
#1
This Cam Seem Good On Stock ShortBlock?
Well i finally made the decision and sold my CC306 to go custom grind!
Since Im Gonna Be On The Stock ShortBlock For Awhile I Figured It Was The Right Thing To Do To B Safe..
Well Anyways Found A LE Cam That Somone Has For Cheap..
Brand New, Never Put In Car
Specs:
226/234 106 LSA
My Main Concern Is The Tight LSA.. Will That LSA Be Ok For A Stock ShortBlock?
I Was Planning On Running Pretty Much The Same Specs But With Like A 109 Lsa, But this is a great deal!
Since Im Gonna Be On The Stock ShortBlock For Awhile I Figured It Was The Right Thing To Do To B Safe..
Well Anyways Found A LE Cam That Somone Has For Cheap..
Brand New, Never Put In Car
Specs:
226/234 106 LSA
My Main Concern Is The Tight LSA.. Will That LSA Be Ok For A Stock ShortBlock?
I Was Planning On Running Pretty Much The Same Specs But With Like A 109 Lsa, But this is a great deal!
Last edited by Ls1~Lover; 05-24-2012 at 11:35 PM.
#3
Probably not the best choice if you want your brakes to work properly. Get a real custom cam; not somebody's leftovers. Or just get a more modern smaller off the shelf cam than what you had.
#4
I'm gonna go a little lighter than these other guys here, and not crap all over that cam.
Do you care that it will get crappy gas mileage?
Do you care about the stench every time you're sitting still idling or creeping along in traffic?
If no to both of those, then it might not be such a bad thing.
Remember, the worse the head flow, the more overlap you need to make power.
It's gonna take a good tuner to make it idle right, might even need to run open loop. Tuned right, it will run strong. But it WON't be a good daily driver cam.
Can't be absolutely sure without seeing the cam plot, but I'm running roughly the same overlap and have no brake/vacuum issues.
Do you care that it will get crappy gas mileage?
Do you care about the stench every time you're sitting still idling or creeping along in traffic?
If no to both of those, then it might not be such a bad thing.
Remember, the worse the head flow, the more overlap you need to make power.
It's gonna take a good tuner to make it idle right, might even need to run open loop. Tuned right, it will run strong. But it WON't be a good daily driver cam.
Can't be absolutely sure without seeing the cam plot, but I'm running roughly the same overlap and have no brake/vacuum issues.
#5
I'm gonna go a little lighter than these other guys here, and not crap all over that cam.
Do you care that it will get crappy gas mileage?
Do you care about the stench every time you're sitting still idling or creeping along in traffic?
If no to both of those, then it might not be such a bad thing.
Remember, the worse the head flow, the more overlap you need to make power.
It's gonna take a good tuner to make it idle right, might even need to run open loop. Tuned right, it will run strong. But it WON't be a good daily driver cam.
Can't be absolutely sure without seeing the cam plot, but I'm running roughly the same overlap and have no brake/vacuum issues.
Do you care that it will get crappy gas mileage?
Do you care about the stench every time you're sitting still idling or creeping along in traffic?
If no to both of those, then it might not be such a bad thing.
Remember, the worse the head flow, the more overlap you need to make power.
It's gonna take a good tuner to make it idle right, might even need to run open loop. Tuned right, it will run strong. But it WON't be a good daily driver cam.
Can't be absolutely sure without seeing the cam plot, but I'm running roughly the same overlap and have no brake/vacuum issues.
Yea its going to be a daily driver but i can deal with cam surge...
But Looks Like Its Not For Me.
Ill Just Order One From LE, Im Thinking His 224/232 On A 109 LSA
Last edited by Ls1~Lover; 05-25-2012 at 09:48 PM.
#6
Im running a 226/232 .606/.603 108lsa on a stock head and stock short block engine. I have no brake issues, cam surge is pretty bad @ 48-60mph but im still on a pcmforless tune and run stock 3.23 gears out back.
I have no idea if Im getting something mixed up or not, but cant you do adjustable timing gears to advance the cam degree and make the lsa seem wider? install the cam + 4 degrees or something to make it a little more friendly?
I have no idea if Im getting something mixed up or not, but cant you do adjustable timing gears to advance the cam degree and make the lsa seem wider? install the cam + 4 degrees or something to make it a little more friendly?
#7
Im running a 226/232 .606/.603 108lsa on a stock head and stock short block engine. I have no brake issues, cam surge is pretty bad @ 48-60mph but im still on a pcmforless tune and run stock 3.23 gears out back.
I have no idea if Im getting something mixed up or not, but cant you do adjustable timing gears to advance the cam degree and make the lsa seem wider? install the cam + 4 degrees or something to make it a little more friendly?
I have no idea if Im getting something mixed up or not, but cant you do adjustable timing gears to advance the cam degree and make the lsa seem wider? install the cam + 4 degrees or something to make it a little more friendly?
Bump, Anyone know if i can do that to make the lsa wider?
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#8
No the lsa is ground in. I'll weigh in on the left side of Pat and say it will run well with the stock heads. It will be snappier in the midrange and make more torque than something similar on a 109lsa. A CC306 would drive very similar, but would be down LOTS of torque below 4500 rpm. Idle would be reliable at 800 rpm but would make more vacuum around 900. I say run it!
#9
Ok Thanks!
Im used to being in/driving cars with big cam surge so im sure itll b fine for me.
And im guessing it will actually drive better than the big cc306 i had before.
So im just gonna run it! If i dont like it for whatever reason i can just sell it..
Will My Crane 10308 Valve Springs Be Ok With This Cam
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Thanks Again Guys!!
Im used to being in/driving cars with big cam surge so im sure itll b fine for me.
And im guessing it will actually drive better than the big cc306 i had before.
So im just gonna run it! If i dont like it for whatever reason i can just sell it..
Will My Crane 10308 Valve Springs Be Ok With This Cam
?
Thanks Again Guys!!
Last edited by Ls1~Lover; 05-26-2012 at 12:54 AM.
#12
Heres The Cam Specs:
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#15
Im only 15 so im still learning so thanks for pointing that out!
That should actually be better since it will be a daily driver
And how would i degree the ICL To 108?
Last edited by Ls1~Lover; 05-26-2012 at 05:45 PM.
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#17
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Camaro-Corve...003c02&vxp=mtr
Should i sell it and run an Adjustable?
#18
Alright i already bought this timing chain:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Camaro-Corve...003c02&vxp=mtr
Should i sell it and run an Adjustable?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Camaro-Corve...003c02&vxp=mtr
Should i sell it and run an Adjustable?
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#20
This cam on 106 ICL will likely have more torque and low rpm power but have less high rpm power and maximum horsepower than on 108 ICL. It will work either way, but I am betting the average horsepower in your desired RPM range will likely be a bit higher on 108 ICL.