LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

Bolt-On Mods RPM Shift Points

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-20-2012 | 11:53 AM
  #1  
StraightTimeStirrups's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
Default Bolt-On Mods RPM Shift Points

List your mods and at what shift RPM do you get your best ET and MPH at? If you have have them, list comparative runs with different shift points so others have something to compare with what their cars are doing.

Joe

PS. I haven't been to the track with my car and I'm curious what to expect with different shift points. I CAN'T do a Title change on the thread but let's just open this up to all LT1 engined cars regardless of your mods! Just give a thorough description of your modifications if they aren't in your Signature!

Last edited by StraightTimeStirrups; 08-20-2012 at 09:25 PM.
Old 08-20-2012 | 12:00 PM
  #2  
ahritchie's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,241
Likes: 1
From: Charlotte NC
Default

Stock valve springs or decent ones?
Old 08-20-2012 | 12:41 PM
  #3  
bufmatmuslepants's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,266
Likes: 47
From: Hampstead, NC
Default

On stock valvesprings and rockers I shift at 6000-6100 by the factory tach for best ET and mph. If I shift at 5200 which is stock I lose a half second. I definitely feel the valve float though, and am excited to test my new 918s and 1.6 NSA cranes
Old 08-20-2012 | 12:42 PM
  #4  
SS RRR's Avatar
Village Troll
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 11,065
Likes: 546
From: Jackstandican
Default

Only time to change shift points is if you change the breathing characteristics of the engine (ie valve timing).
Old 08-20-2012 | 12:48 PM
  #5  
bufmatmuslepants's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,266
Likes: 47
From: Hampstead, NC
Default

Or you get a tune and add timing
Old 08-20-2012 | 02:23 PM
  #6  
StraightTimeStirrups's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
Default

To get this back on track so to speak. Can you list your mods and what your best shift points are through testing them on the track?

Every car and combination are going to have a "Best RPM to Shift At" and I am curious what yours are not debate why this that or the other!

Joe
Old 08-20-2012 | 02:50 PM
  #7  
bufmatmuslepants's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,266
Likes: 47
From: Hampstead, NC
Default

Mods in sig
Old 08-20-2012 | 03:20 PM
  #8  
ahritchie's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,241
Likes: 1
From: Charlotte NC
Default

Originally Posted by StraightTimeStirrups
To get this back on track so to speak. Can you list your mods and what your best shift points are through testing them on the track?

Every car and combination are going to have a "Best RPM to Shift At" and I am curious what yours are not debate why this that or the other!

Joe
It's all subjective depending on the car...somebody with a 6spd, 3200lb Corvette, with 4.10 gears is going to have different optimal shift points than auto, 4000lb Caprice, with 3.23's......even more so when you start changing valve springs, roller rockers allowing it to rev a few hundred RPM more without terrible valve float. You need to be more specific or it's an apple to oranges comparison.
Old 08-20-2012 | 05:44 PM
  #9  
StraightTimeStirrups's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by ahritchie
It's all subjective depending on the car...somebody with a 6spd, 3200lb Corvette, with 4.10 gears is going to have different optimal shift points than auto, 4000lb Caprice, with 3.23's......even more so when you start changing valve springs, roller rockers allowing it to rev a few hundred RPM more without terrible valve float. You need to be more specific or it's an apple to oranges comparison.
NO KIDDING!

It continues to amaze me why people never respond to the intent of a thread and/or question posed and have to respond with the obvious statement that you can't compare apples to oranges!

Quite possibly if people would post their mods and what shift points gave them their best times someone with a similar set up they could compare their apple to another apple so to speak!

Joe
Old 08-20-2012 | 05:56 PM
  #10  
ahritchie's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,241
Likes: 1
From: Charlotte NC
Default

Originally Posted by StraightTimeStirrups
NO KIDDING!

It continues to amaze me why people never respond to the intent of a thread and/or question posed and have to respond with the obvious statement that you can't compare apples to oranges!

Quite possibly if people would post their mods and what shift points gave them their best times someone with a similar set up they could compare their apple to another apple so to speak!

Joe
Bench racing is lame....take it to the track and find out first hand!


lol...5900 rpm no matter what...that what you wanted to hear?
Old 08-20-2012 | 07:30 PM
  #11  
StraightTimeStirrups's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by ahritchie
Bench racing is lame....take it to the track and find out first hand!

lol...5900 rpm no matter what...that what you wanted to hear?
No, What I wanted to read are peoples real world experiences with their cars not some comments that are so obvious that they don't need to be said!
Old 08-20-2012 | 07:34 PM
  #12  
StraightTimeStirrups's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
Default

So far Archie you have made three posts and not one has answered the intent of this thread! Why waste yours and everyone else's time?
Old 08-20-2012 | 07:48 PM
  #13  
NewOrleansLT1's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,707
Likes: 13
From: New Orleans, LA
Default

When I had my LT4 Hot Cam with AFR 180cc heads, 3.73 gears, 3500 stall, and Pacesetter mids I shifted the car at 6250rpm and ran 11.98 at 115 1.68 60ft..
Old 08-20-2012 | 07:59 PM
  #14  
lt1-xjs's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 10
From: centerville, ohio
Default

Originally Posted by SS RRR
Only time to change shift points is if you change the breathing characteristics of the engine (ie valve timing).
Bolt-on's 3900 lbs, 1-2 shift 6-6100, 2-3 5900. Anything less and I run 13's.
Old 08-20-2012 | 08:12 PM
  #15  
bufmatmuslepants's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,266
Likes: 47
From: Hampstead, NC
Default

He asked boltons only no heads/cam
Old 08-20-2012 | 08:38 PM
  #16  
SS RRR's Avatar
Village Troll
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 11,065
Likes: 546
From: Jackstandican
Default

Originally Posted by lt1-xjs
Bolt-on's 3900 lbs, 1-2 shift 6-6100, 2-3 5900. Anything less and I run 13's.
Where's your power peak?
Old 08-20-2012 | 09:00 PM
  #17  
pancho toco loco's Avatar
TECH Resident

iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 902
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Default

1-2 6250 2-3 6100............... Cant really give much info on before when shifts were slightly less do the fact it was 50ish out verses 79 or so when I ran some 12.8-12.9's at 106ish with lower shift points. Also my best times were with my trans having somewhat of a lazy 2-3 shift.
Old 08-20-2012 | 09:09 PM
  #18  
banshe5's Avatar
On The Tree
10 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 65
From: Lincolnton, NC
Default

I hope this helps. Many many years ago when my 94 Formula was just bolt ons (AS&M Headers, CAI, 3.73 gears, 2400 Stall) I was shifting about 6100 RPM. It's a full weight car and was cutting 1.9-2.0 60' times on street tires, I was running 13.3 @ 105. I was told by numerous people that I was shifting too high. I put it back to stock shift points and ran a 14.0 @ 100. I tweaked each shift point and ended back at the 6100 I was at before. I'm not saying that is best but it was best in my situation.
Old 08-20-2012 | 09:13 PM
  #19  
StraightTimeStirrups's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
He asked boltons only no heads/cam
You are correct but at least you and these guys answering in the way I was hoping this thread would go so let's just see everyones answers!

Thanks guys!

Joe
Old 08-20-2012 | 10:26 PM
  #20  
bufmatmuslepants's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,266
Likes: 47
From: Hampstead, NC
Default

As far as the fastest Bolton guys who frequently post here (me, camaroracing12, lt1 xjs etc) we all shift around 6000-6100. I don't think any of us have hit a dyno but we have all made a lot of track passes. Common knowledge is now that a full bolton lt1 shifting at 6000 rpm with good tires and a good driver WILL run mid to high 12s in under 2000 DA. If you can't run 12s in under 2000 DA with full boltons, your opti is broken.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:02 PM.