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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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I am looking to by a 1994-1997 LT1 Camaro with about 50,000-70,000 miles. I have a friend who has a 1995 z28 with catback, K&N, a shift kit, and a performance chip. I really like the way it drives, and it is very quick. Although I would rather go through the gears manually, but i'm not a very experienced stick driver. As of right now I own a 1991 z28 350 tpi with a good amount of mods, and am planning to sell this to get the LT1.

Now, do the m6 LT1s perform better in any way than the a4's? I know a m6 LS1 performs damn good and seems to be better from a roll than an a4(not to mention looks more fun to drive). I also know that the LT1s do not have as much power at their dispense as an LS1, so how do they perform from a roll in an m6 compared to an a4? Also, what are the a4's pros and cons, and the m6's pros and cons? If I were to buy a m6, it would be my first time owning a manual, and i'm not too experienced at driving them, so it would kind of be a learning experience.

All input appreciated, thank you.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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A4 pros and cons:
pros:
easy to launch
more efficient
wont break 10 bolt
with proper stall.. more capable of better 60foots than M6

cons:
not as fun to drive
longer gears

M6 pros and cons:
pros:
fun to drive
shorter gears
less power loss through tranny

cons:
breaks 10 bolts!
not so efficient if you are just learning
traffic sucks with the heavy clutches in the F-bodies
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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oh and, F-bodies dont have "chips"...
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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M6 is the way to go.... fun to drive & kick a$$ off a roll....
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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Yeah, but does an M6 LT1 pull from a roll very well, because I have never even seen an M6 LT1 being driven, nor have I been in one.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:12 AM
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umm... it depends on the driver dude..
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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All you'd have to do is be in the correct gear and floor it basically. Unless there is something i'm missing?
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Saad06
A4 pros and cons:
pros:
easy to launch
more efficient
wont break 10 bolt
with proper stall.. more capable of better 60foots than M6

cons:
not as fun to drive
longer gears

M6 pros and cons:
pros:
fun to drive
shorter gears
less power loss through tranny

cons:
breaks 10 bolts!
not so efficient if you are just learning
traffic sucks with the heavy clutches in the F-bodies
he hit it right on the head, to add for racing a auto is very consistant and will hook better, the m6 is the opposite.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:58 AM
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If you can't drive the m6 is going to be slower from a stop.. Once you practice, learn your launching techniques it'll be hard for the a4 to keep up.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:10 AM
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They perform very similarly in stock form, the biggest difference is the amount of abuse they can take. The T56 is damn near unbreakable without a power adder, the 4L60/E won't put up with quite as much **** but is pretty tough for an automatic (especially when compared to those in the Mustangs).

There will be slight differences in performance. For example, an M6 will usually trap higher due to it's putting down more power than the A4, and an A4 will usually run a quicker E/T due to the quicker shifting. Keep in mind these differences are minimal at best though.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:29 AM
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I have decided that I will just get whatever I can find with good miles for a good price. You have convinced me that both have their advantages and disadvantages. I would love to be banging through the gears, but then again it would get kind of old when in traffic, especially since i'm not a very experienced manual driver. So i'm just going to get what is the best deal and work from there.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
I have decided that I will just get whatever I can find with good miles for a good price. You have convinced me that both have their advantages and disadvantages. I would love to be banging through the gears, but then again it would get kind of old when in traffic, especially since i'm not a very experienced manual driver. So i'm just going to get what is the best deal and work from there.
I'm looking to buy an LT1 also, and that's pretty much how I am. My plans are to build a good H/C/N2O daily driver until after college, and the 4L60/E can handle that much power for the time being so the tranny doesn't really matter for now.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
I'm looking to buy an LT1 also, and that's pretty much how I am. My plans are to build a good H/C/N2O daily driver until after college, and the 4L60/E can handle that much power for the time being so the tranny doesn't really matter for now.
i don't know about that one, i just blew out my tranny in my 95 with reworked stock heads, cam, stall, Shift kit & cooler and thats without N20. it did manage about 1 month after those mods and it decided that 3-4 wasent important anymore so be careful if selecting a car. make sure it wasent abused & misused.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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automatics are for girls, be a real man and get a 6 speed.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SmokedOutZ28
i don't know about that one, i just blew out my tranny in my 95 with reworked stock heads, cam, stall, Shift kit & cooler and thats without N20. it did manage about 1 month after those mods and it decided that 3-4 wasent important anymore so be careful if selecting a car. make sure it wasent abused & misused.
True.. the 4L60E in my previous LT1 was stout as hell and didn't give an inch under boost so I've got a good amount of confidence in them.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Hands down an auto is better for drag racing and the stick better for street driving (except in traffic), or road coursing. I have the stick because I blew the automatic up and didnt want to deal with bulletproffing it to hold up. The stick is hard to drive well at the track....I was beat by an automatic friday night who only trapped 114!

You have to decide what youre gonna use the car for......me, I drive it. I go to the track maybe 4-5 times a season, so I did not want to sacrifice the fun factor for another .5 at the track.
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Originally Posted by N20LT4Bird
Hands down an auto is better for drag racing and the stick better for street driving (except in traffic), or road coursing. I have the stick because I blew the automatic up and didnt want to deal with bulletproffing it to hold up. The stick is hard to drive well at the track....I was beat by an automatic friday night who only trapped 114!

You have to decide what youre gonna use the car for......me, I drive it. I go to the track maybe 4-5 times a season, so I did not want to sacrifice the fun factor for another .5 at the track.
Agreed 100%

The main reason I'd buy an M6 car would be the strength of the tranny rather than the fun of rowing through the gears.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Maybe its just me but stompin down one pedel and haulin *** seems to be more fun then gas,clutch, and trying to find your gears. They are both a good choice, just get whichever u think best suits you. If you end up with a A4, grab a torque converter and so much for the M6's faster from a roll stuff
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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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If you plan on drag racing...A4 if you plan on roll racing/having fun when you drive....M6
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An A4 with a proper stall is every bit as effective as a manual from a roll. Once you mod, stock power is out the window. Don't worry about it, it's driver's preferance.
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