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01 Camaro SS test drive (comparison to LT1)
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I know exactly what you mean by the ls1 feels slower then the lt1. I had (had 
) a lt1 w/ basic bolt ons and my friend had a stock 02 ls1 and when you were in my lt1 u got thrown back in ur seat hard and it felt mean as **** BUT although the stock ls1 feels slower when I looked at the speedo i could clearly tell the ls1 is the faster car.
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) a lt1 w/ basic bolt ons and my friend had a stock 02 ls1 and when you were in my lt1 u got thrown back in ur seat hard and it felt mean as **** BUT although the stock ls1 feels slower when I looked at the speedo i could clearly tell the ls1 is the faster car.just my .02
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Well, the only thing we can assume is that the one I drove just wasn't what I expected. Or, it wasn't running well. As for my friends car, I have no idea. I did look at the speedo, but I really can't tell just looking at that. I'm going to say that it wasn't what I thought an extra 50hp would be like. So, do you guys think a bolt on LT1 could take a stock LS1?
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I also drove a Zo6, a GTO, and a new 05 Mustang GT. The Zo6 was insane. The GTO was alright. (once again, expecting more) The mustang GT was like the GTO. I think they would be a good street race, but the GTO is faster in my opinion. The Camaro SS and the GTO would be a nice run.
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I think we can all agree that both are great engines, but if you put it in bang for buck prospective LT1's are cheaper. I got mine for $5500 with 88k on it with mods and in very good condition. Sure if you drop an extra 3k or so you can get an LS1 but 3k in mods for an LT1 car will blow a stock LS1 away. It all depends on what you want, and how much you have to spend.
A4s are funny, my best is in my sig. Still haven't run it with the converter and drags yet. Will do so when the next mustang vs firebird/camaro challenge comes to Etown next month. It depends on how your friend launched the car. Did he leave from Idle? That would trap a 101 or so if he did that. I launched the car at around 2000 and managed the 106 trap with the 2.0 60' on street tires.
I changed the converter and went back to the track with the same street tires and got a horrendous 2.59 60' still with a strong 101 trap and a funny 15.2 ET. All spinning and had to left off the throttle since the car went sideways twice, once to the right then I turned the wheel and she went to the left in one spot. Let off the throttle straightened out the wheel and rolled into the throttle and trapped 101.
Took a whole second off babying off the line 14.2 @ 104 then another tenth doing the same but hitting the brakes at the traps to avoid breaking out but broke out anyway with a 14.0 @ 101.
I'll see how she does next month but it completely hauls *** now. What a difference tires make. From 10mph I can just floor it and I get no wheel spin. From a stand still that's a different story.
I changed the converter and went back to the track with the same street tires and got a horrendous 2.59 60' still with a strong 101 trap and a funny 15.2 ET. All spinning and had to left off the throttle since the car went sideways twice, once to the right then I turned the wheel and she went to the left in one spot. Let off the throttle straightened out the wheel and rolled into the throttle and trapped 101.
Took a whole second off babying off the line 14.2 @ 104 then another tenth doing the same but hitting the brakes at the traps to avoid breaking out but broke out anyway with a 14.0 @ 101. I'll see how she does next month but it completely hauls *** now. What a difference tires make. From 10mph I can just floor it and I get no wheel spin. From a stand still that's a different story.
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Your times are more realistic to my friends. He ran a 14.1. I don't think he reved it up off the line. He had street tires, so he didn't want to spin too bad. That's what he was telling me. But, I'm pretty sure he didn't rev it up at all. That is probably some of the reason why he had a 14.1. He still was getting 2.2-2.1 60' though.
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Verdad Gallardo The reason why I ran the 14.1 is because of the convertor. The stock stall I ran the 13.2, when I put the bigger stall in, it was too much for the street tires to handle so I had to gently ease into the throttle or else I would just sit in one place and spin, basically a standing burnout without the brakes applied. I've managed to floor the car without reving it up and managed a 13.6 @ 104 with the stock stall.
Your friend needs more seat time and get that 60' down to 2.0 and he'll be in the mid 13s. What kind of trap speed did he get with the 14.1?
Your friend needs more seat time and get that 60' down to 2.0 and he'll be in the mid 13s. What kind of trap speed did he get with the 14.1?
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Well, it's florida. It's really never to cool. It was most likely pretty hot out. It didn't happen that long ago and winter was a long time ago, so it was pretty hot. I know he ran the 14.1@99. But, he did get 101mph. It was a slower run though. I think that was his first run of the night. (he spun)
Oh in Florida, humidity there is a killer. I ran a 13.8 @ 103 at moroso with my old T/A with lid and catback then took the car to Etown in NJ and ran a 13.4 @104 with the same mods. Well since his car is an 01, tell him to get rid of Torque Management, which pulls his timing, and run again. When he starts to mod, lid, catback, converter with a cooler, and DRs. He will be in the 12s for sure. Florida weather is a killer.
Which track do you guys go to?
Well since his car is an 01, tell him to get rid of Torque Management, which pulls his timing, and run again. When he starts to mod, lid, catback, converter with a cooler, and DRs. He will be in the 12s for sure. Florida weather is a killer. Which track do you guys go to?
That's cool, these cars are extremely restricted. Just taking the restrictions off, wakes these cars up. I'm still trying to talk a buddy of mine into getting an LT1 but I think he's been importized.
Well let me chime in a little. I have a 1991 z28 with bolt-ons(headers,exhaust,K&N, and basically all the bolt-ons), and I just raced an LT1 with atleast exhaust the other night from a 35 roll and got him pretty good. Then in the same night I raced a WS6 and got stomped from a roll. Ls1 is a roll monster, so the higher the roll, the more the LT1 will get stomped. If it's from a dig it will be close. It's all about how you race LT1 vs. LS1.
At the 1/8 mile track that I go to I saw a few ls1s. A 6-speed trans am running 8.9 at best, an automatic z28 running 9.5(something had to be wrong), and a 6-speed z28 run 9.05@79mph. In the same day there were a couple of LT1s there. There was an LT1 that ran 9.2@76, which was an auto. Another one with exhaust/intake and he ran a 9.00@78. So through the 1/8 mile it is pretty close, the lt1 just short a few mph.
At the 1/8 mile track that I go to I saw a few ls1s. A 6-speed trans am running 8.9 at best, an automatic z28 running 9.5(something had to be wrong), and a 6-speed z28 run 9.05@79mph. In the same day there were a couple of LT1s there. There was an LT1 that ran 9.2@76, which was an auto. Another one with exhaust/intake and he ran a 9.00@78. So through the 1/8 mile it is pretty close, the lt1 just short a few mph.