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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Tony Shepard's LT1 Z/28 put down 490HP and 505TQ at the wheels on the motor alone. Tony has worked long and hard on his car, just wanted to say thanks.
Can't wait to finish the tune and see what it does with the nitrous! We have pictures up on our website check it out. The car looks excellent! We'll have the dyno video up soon.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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is this after he put on the fast system? i remember seeing a post a while ago that said he put down 490 but the engine need more rpms?
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Nope the 490RWHP was with the Stock computer. ED wright said himself you can only go to 7250 on the stock computer. Tony has a nice setup, mine is very similiar to his. 396, Single plain, and Ported AFR's make one bad combo. Tony does have a big cam in this car so I would say 8,000 RPM is needed should do at LEAST 550RWHP probably MORE .
Do you guys have a Graph we could look at. I like the RWTQ this motor puts out. BTW you guys should have dropped the Belt and made 500, lol.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by T/A KID
Nope the 490RWHP was with the Stock computer. ED wright said himself you can only go to 7250 on the stock computer. Tony has a nice setup, mine is very similiar to his. 396, Single plain, and Ported AFR's make one bad combo. Tony does have a big cam in this car so I would say 8,000 RPM is needed should do at LEAST 550RWHP probably MORE .
Do you guys have a Graph we could look at. I like the RWTQ this motor puts out. BTW you guys should have dropped the Belt and made 500, lol.
good, i was starting to loose faith in the mighty lt1. dont get me wrong 490/505 are some great numbers but i figured with those heads, solid cam, and that intake it would be over 500 easy
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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I will refer you to mindgame's motor on cz28, or n20dave's motor on here. Good numbers on a stock pcm tho. Pushing the limits for sure. Any idea on head flow figures?
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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n20daves is bad ***... but the only lt1 part on that car is the block

whats mindgames pull?

i just dont see to many 500+ hp lt1s
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PortPros1
Tony Shepard's LT1 Z/28 put down 490HP and 505TQ at the wheels on the motor alone. Tony has worked long and hard on his car, just wanted to say thanks.
Can't wait to finish the tune and see what it does with the nitrous! We have pictures up on our website check it out. The car looks excellent! We'll have the dyno video up soon.
Tony's car a stick or automatic? Not bad numbers, either way.

Ed
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Its a Auto(4l60E), I think with a 4000+ stall. Has the Victor E manifold, (not wanting to start a Fight, lol) but a Super Vic from what I have been told, would have been a better intake for a setup like this one.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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The motor needs more rpm for sure, we were making 100HP per 1000 rpm when the computer shut down. The dyno was reading 6800rpm when the computer shut down. With the parts we have on this motor it should turn 8500rpm. The motor will put down 600HP to 650HP.
The heads are 227's that we ported here at Port Pros, they flow 320 intake and 240 exhaust.
I'll get the dyno graph and post it, the HP and Torque lines are almost the same.
Once we get the F.A.S.T. system installed it will be one B.A. LT1. The car is a automatic, with a ford 9 inch and a 4500 stall. This car also has 1 3/4 headers, we need really need to step up to 1 7/8 headers.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Damn !! what a massive #'s out of that LT1 through 4L60E

Hopfully to see 600rwhp LT1 on motor alone

So PortPros1 is the dyno vid up yet ?!!

peace
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by blkchevyz
n20daves is bad ***... but the only lt1 part on that car is the block
i can think of others like that making good et numbers as well as dyno numbers
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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6800 RPM huh ? Any idea why the computer Shut down at that RPM level. I thought The stock units could pull to 7250 before the system shut down???
Not wanting to dyno race but wonder what this thing would have put down on a 3:23 geared 10-bolt and a M6
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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working on a 355 CI motor that should do that all motor........
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Originally Posted by PortPros1
The motor needs more rpm for sure, we were making 100HP per 1000 rpm when the computer shut down. The dyno was reading 6800rpm when the computer shut down. With the parts we have on this motor it should turn 8500rpm. The motor will put down 600HP to 650HP.
The heads are 227's that we ported here at Port Pros, they flow 320 intake and 240 exhaust.
I'll get the dyno graph and post it, the HP and Torque lines are almost the same.
Once we get the F.A.S.T. system installed it will be one B.A. LT1. The car is a automatic, with a ford 9 inch and a 4500 stall. This car also has 1 3/4 headers, we need really need to step up to 1 7/8 headers.
The real question is the lift and valve size and that will tell you how high it will want to turn.

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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PortPros1
The motor needs more rpm for sure, we were making 100HP per 1000 rpm when the computer shut down. The dyno was reading 6800rpm when the computer shut down. With the parts we have on this motor it should turn 8500rpm. The motor will put down 600HP to 650HP.
The heads are 227's that we ported here at Port Pros, they flow 320 intake and 240 exhaust.
I'll get the dyno graph and post it, the HP and Torque lines are almost the same.
Once we get the F.A.S.T. system installed it will be one B.A. LT1. The car is a automatic, with a ford 9 inch and a 4500 stall. This car also has 1 3/4 headers, we need really need to step up to 1 7/8 headers.
The 240 on the exhaust...is that with or without a pipe?

Dave
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:12 AM
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Will the stock block live over >7000rpm and 500+HP??

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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
Will the stock block live over >7000rpm and 500+HP??

Jim
Steve Quinn's and Joe Overton's LTX blocks seem to.

Ed
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by T/A KID
6800 RPM huh ? Any idea why the computer Shut down at that RPM level. I thought The stock units could pull to 7250 before the system shut down???
Not wanting to dyno race but wonder what this thing would have put down on a 3:23 geared 10-bolt and a M6

Don't know, I'm just going by the dyno's reading, there may be a difference between the dyno's reading and the cars computer. The stock computers are suppost to go to 7250rpm.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
The real question is the lift and valve size and that will tell you how high it will want to turn.

Bret
No, the amount of air, the size (cubic inches) of the motor and the quality of parts determine how many rpm any motor will turn.
A set of Pontiac 400 heads flow 240cfm with a 2.110 valve, this motor will turn maybe 5000rpm before it stops making power with 400 c.i.
Tony's motor has a 2.100 valve and the heads flow 320cfm with 396 c.i, it will turn 8500rpm before it stops making power. If we were to put Tonys heads on a 327 c.i motor we'd turn even more rpm if the parts could take it.
These motors are nothing more than air pumps, the more air the higher the rpm, the higher the rpm the more power you can make with a given displacement.
As a motor makes more power, turns more rpm, you have to have the proper parts put together correctly or the motor will break.
This is what I was referring to.
It's much more complex than this, cam design, C/R, manifold design etc and so on all make a difference.
I've been building motors and designing parts for about 20 years now, and theres still more to learn, I love my job!
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
Will the stock block live over >7000rpm and 500+HP??

Jim
To be honest it amazes me that the stock LT1 block can take the amount of power they make without breaking.
We have billet main caps, good bottom end pieces, ARP main studs and the block is grouted.
If were raced more than 1320 feet at a time, I don't think the blocks would last as long as they do.
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