Summit Opti spark sucks
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Summit Opti spark sucks Well i bought a new summit opti spark and put it on my car...for the past week i have been trying to get the thing to run right, or even run at all anymore(witch wouldn't be as bad if i had the inverted torex, Had to use throttle body screw and vice grips). My old optispark with 140k on it still workerd i just wanted to get a new one because of a low rpm miss. after about 15-20 times putting the old one one and new one, then the old opti with new cap rotor vice versa all about 4 times each combo, i finnally went back to just the old one and old cap and rotor and it fired right back up. I am soooo pissed right now because all this time i have just been shooting myself in the foot. I am going to try and call summit to see if i can get my money back, at this point i would rather take a loss on the whole thing then have them send me another one. This thing is worthless. I filled the car up with dexcool 4 times and had to drain it along with the water pump till i finally got smart and just hooked everything up and let it run for 1-2 min b4 putting the water pump on and everything. I think im just going to go to the dealer tommorw and buy a brand new ac delco. I give up on playing games anymore.
The MSD unit is pretty damn sweet, I don't know the price difference between it and a ac delco unit though.
I think all the prices are ridiculous, they just about **** a brick at kragen, and thats after they matched summits price of $500 for the msd opti.
Reman opti with cap and rotor was going to come out to $440! Prices on opti stuff is retarded.
I think all the prices are ridiculous, they just about **** a brick at kragen, and thats after they matched summits price of $500 for the msd opti.
Reman opti with cap and rotor was going to come out to $440! Prices on opti stuff is retarded.
Yea the prices are really high, but its because all the precision part inside the opti. plus thermoset plastics are really expensive when compared to regular plastics
that sucks though about the summit opti, if you cant do it right, why even try. They should have waited till they could produce a quality piece that out performed the stocker
that sucks though about the summit opti, if you cant do it right, why even try. They should have waited till they could produce a quality piece that out performed the stocker
accel makes the summit opti IIRC.
A vented opti from someone like DAL should be around $234. You'll get a serious bend over if you go to the dealer. If you have a vented opti get a new opit vent harness.
A vented opti from someone like DAL should be around $234. You'll get a serious bend over if you go to the dealer. If you have a vented opti get a new opit vent harness.
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Originally Posted by Jditlfm
i just figured it was a ac delco with the summit name at a discounted price, i was wrong
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Im telling to guys their is no way possible to put the optispark on and be totaly 100% sure it is seated correctly witout taking the cap off. Mine would sit flush with the block and the dowel pin would be in the cam bolt holes, that was my first problem. What ever you guys are seeing that i dont upon instalation go ahead and give me some tips, but only the ones that have done it because it's a little more tricky then it looks on the diagram.
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Now that is really odd.
Summit Opti
New ignition for your LT1.
Replace your stock LT1 Optispark II distributor with our all-new Summit LT1 Optispark II distributors. These distributors feature an aluminum housing with heavy-duty oilite bushings, and a glass-reinforced cap with high dielectric strength and brass terminals.
Accel Opti
Replace the weak link in your LT1 ignition.
These Accel Performance Replacement GM Opti-Spark II distributors are all new construction with heavy-duty Oil-lite bushings and polished aluminum housings. These distributors include a high dielectric strength reinforced cap with brass contacts and balanced rotor.
Also included are new pin drive shaft seals, hardware, and easy to follow instructions.
I didnt know ACdelcos had oilite bushings. Am I misreading this? Was the original guy saying he ordered a stock GM Opti from Summit or a new Summit opti?
Summit Opti
New ignition for your LT1.
Replace your stock LT1 Optispark II distributor with our all-new Summit LT1 Optispark II distributors. These distributors feature an aluminum housing with heavy-duty oilite bushings, and a glass-reinforced cap with high dielectric strength and brass terminals.
Accel Opti
Replace the weak link in your LT1 ignition.
These Accel Performance Replacement GM Opti-Spark II distributors are all new construction with heavy-duty Oil-lite bushings and polished aluminum housings. These distributors include a high dielectric strength reinforced cap with brass contacts and balanced rotor.
Also included are new pin drive shaft seals, hardware, and easy to follow instructions.
I didnt know ACdelcos had oilite bushings. Am I misreading this? Was the original guy saying he ordered a stock GM Opti from Summit or a new Summit opti?
MSD has two different opti's, one is like 150 other is 500. Also summit has a regular opti for 115 and a opti 2 for 250, but opti 2 is the vented style only. Persoanlly I'd go with the lower cost msd for 150. And summit is very good at handling returns... so call them and I'm sure they will correct your problem. They have excellent customer service there.
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Originally Posted by gd1996
MSD has two different opti's, one is like 150 other is 500. Also summit has a regular opti for 115 and a opti 2 for 250, but opti 2 is the vented style only. Persoanlly I'd go with the lower cost msd for 150. And summit is very good at handling returns... so call them and I'm sure they will correct your problem. They have excellent customer service there.
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I just put in a summit. the whole thing not just the cap and rotor swap. It runs great!
probably wont last as long as a msd or dynaspark, but I think I am just going to convert to coil packs once I do a turbo.
probably wont last as long as a msd or dynaspark, but I think I am just going to convert to coil packs once I do a turbo.
any type of leak or crack on the coil wire or plug wires on the lt1
will cuase a arc or crossfire on the opti cap and rotor and will cause carbon tracking even upon start up or the first time down the road, thats why some exp. "faulty" opti's from auto parts stores and national dist. like summit
i have gone thru more of those pos than i care to remember and i had to order
a cap and rotor kit today, im going with the Accel one and see how that goes
anyways, the opti are not always entirely at fault sometimes its a combination of the opti and the wires integrity.
will cuase a arc or crossfire on the opti cap and rotor and will cause carbon tracking even upon start up or the first time down the road, thats why some exp. "faulty" opti's from auto parts stores and national dist. like summit
i have gone thru more of those pos than i care to remember and i had to order
a cap and rotor kit today, im going with the Accel one and see how that goes
anyways, the opti are not always entirely at fault sometimes its a combination of the opti and the wires integrity.
Originally Posted by blind527
I have a low RPM miss...only at certain speeds/RPM's it does it, I'm probably going to change the opti sometime soon.
remove the cap and rotor and u will see the carbon tracks, they look like
a bunch of "water spots" shooting in linear directions where the spark is crossing from one post to another post via the "water spots"
most likely u will just needa cap and rotor
Accel Cap and Rotor Kit for LT1 75$ Shipped www.jcwhitney.com has the cap and rotor kit for the lt1' for 69.99$
part#rb278263
and standard shipping of 13$
but if u make a purchase of 6$ + 69.99=75$ U GET FREE SHIPPING
so buy something that costs 6$ and u will save 7$ on shipping
thats what they are advertising on the site
so if u purchase $75 u get free shipping
have a looksy
part#rb278263
and standard shipping of 13$
but if u make a purchase of 6$ + 69.99=75$ U GET FREE SHIPPING
so buy something that costs 6$ and u will save 7$ on shipping
thats what they are advertising on the site
so if u purchase $75 u get free shipping
have a looksy
[QUOTE=Jditlfm]Im telling to guys their is no way possible to put the optispark on and be totaly 100% sure it is seated correctly witout taking the cap off. QUOTE]
Not going to get into a "uh uh ~ uh huh" about this but it's actually done all the time, I've done it countless times and have friends who have as well with no issues whatsoever, it's not that hard to line up.
Not going to get into a "uh uh ~ uh huh" about this but it's actually done all the time, I've done it countless times and have friends who have as well with no issues whatsoever, it's not that hard to line up.
Originally Posted by Jditlfm
Im telling to guys their is no way possible to put the optispark on and be totaly 100% sure it is seated correctly witout taking the cap off. Mine would sit flush with the block and the dowel pin would be in the cam bolt holes, that was my first problem. What ever you guys are seeing that i dont upon instalation go ahead and give me some tips, but only the ones that have done it because it's a little more tricky then it looks on the diagram.
Only if the dowel pin on the cam is too short. Stock it sticks way out and would not let the opti seat even if it fell into one of the 3 machined circles on the back. It makes the opti stick out a little. On mine it looks right but the ears of the opti stick away fro the block like 1/4 inch or less.
yeah when I got my msd opti they have you take the cap off to match the last position the stocker one was at, but you have to take it off anyway cause they don't install the cap gasket, so they basically are forcing you to take the cap off the msd opti. Even after going this route it didn't just slip on, still had to move the drive pin around til it sat flush.