95 Camaro Z28

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Title says it all.

Not just the front clip or random parts.

im looking to drop the entire shell and subframe from an ls1 car, onto all my suspension, motor, tranny and rear end.

can this be done as easy as un hooking the wiring and steering linkage. dropping the k-member unbolting all 4 shock towers and rolling the assembly out from the frame?

95 Camaro Z28

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also, anyone know which pigtails i need for any 98+ specific wiring?

Formula350

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Dude, they're the SAME car! The only difference is some mechanical and aesthetics. The shell, is the same.

95 Camaro Z28

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i realize this. my question has to do with certain wiring that might be specific to the new body. such as the gauge cluster.

i need to know what if any adapters are made that will take my lt1 harness and make it compatible with certain ls1 specific things.

and also. i need to know the most effective way to get the body and sub frame off the rest of the car with out breaking things or pushing things out of line.

Formula350

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You can use the cluster in early 4ths, the tail lights might be it.

Why don't you just unbolt the front upper and lower A-Arms as well as the KMember off your LT1, instead of trying to remove the Sub Frame?

daniel6718

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no the body isnt the same...look at the tranny crossmember for an ls1 and lt1...

Formula350

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Do you have pics of an A4 LS1 crossmember and an A4 LT1 crossmember?

EDIT: Found a topic on here, and the LS1 4L60E works fine with a LT1 4L60E crossmember. So I can't see why they would be different if the work with each other. Are you thinking because it has a skid plate, that they are different?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-swaps/40660-ls1-6-0-liter-swap-1994-camaro-need-some-help-one.html

UA-Plumber

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The t56 Crossmembers are different, as well as the pedals

95 Camaro Z28

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i will get the pedals with the car. and i could probably get a cross member...

will an ls1 cross member solve the problem?

daniel6718

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no the lt1 crossmember will only work on a lt1 car...the ls1 will only work on the ls1 car...
you want to put a lt1 tranny with a ls1 crossmember then youll be in for some modifications...modifying the lt1 is easy, the ls1 is boxed so its a little more difficult... i BARELY, and let me say it again BARELY got the lt1 to work with a ls1 tranny

Torkman15

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Just use the 97 anniversery car int wire harness so you can use the newer dash and instrument cluster. The rad support is slightly taller and the trans crossmembers are slightly different but you just use the 98-newer crossmember with your LT1/trans. The bodys arent that much different, I have parted about 8 Camaros (5 LT1 cars and 3 LS1) so I have alot of parts laying around that I have been comparing for a 6.0L/T-56 swap into a 95 stripper Camaro. Also have a 2000 SS that I have been thinking about switching to the LT1 t-56 crossmember for 3in Y pipe clearance.

Oh and the petals are same, only the switches are different.

95 Camaro Z28

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what if i am changing my lt1 t56 to a ls1 auto set up. how hard is it to swap pedals and all that stuff? and will the rest of my lt1 m6 stuff work??

the_merv

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Engine and Wiring- I built my own Wiring Harness, direct plug in, runs everything as it normally would be. Engine is mounted into the Car with some Conversion Plates that I got ahold of, and they work nicely. I used the LT1 K-member and Mounts, most swap it out for the LS1 K-member and Mounts. You will need a LS1 Steering Rack and Linkage. Fuel to the Engine is going to be custom, I am using a Corvette Fuel Filter/Regulator. Radiator is the same as the LT1.

Drivetrain- You will have to get a LT1 Auto Cross Member, and modify it to fit. Depending on how you are mounting the Engine will determine how everything is going to fit. What I believe Daniel ran into is the Engine went in no problem, and the Tranny Mount was a little bit forward of the Cross Member. The LT1/LS1 use the same Tranny Mounts, but the Cross Members are different on how they do bolt to the Body. From there the Drive Shafts are identical. Your Petals will work no problem, just don't use the Clutch. You may have to look into the Neutral/safety Switch.

What I am building is in my Sig, I have done alot of research for this.

I know a couple of people were waiting for me to chime in..

Formula350

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Merv, I don't know if you know, but he's putting an LT1 in an LS1 body. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Kinda seems like you're pointing at an LS1 in an LT1 body.

95 Camaro Z28

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yeah this is beginning to look like quite a bit more work than i anticipated. i just wanted to run all my lt1 subframe, all suspension and what not and drop the ls1 body on top.

i THOUGHT it was as simple as unbolting the K members, shock towers, steering linkage and then in the rear the bolts that hold the rearend to the car and the tranny supports and pull the whole body of my car off. then hover an ls1 body above it and slowly drop it down connecting everything and using the anniversary wiring harness where applicable.

what is the biggest hold up in a project like this? seems like the tranny brace? is there some what to modify the braces and weld it to the subframe connectors or something??

Formula350

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I can't imagine why all that stuff wouldn't be compatible. I mean, the shocks, springs, drive shaft, and I think all the rest of the suspension is interchangeable between the years. Sure, a bit of wiring I can see being different due to it being LS1, so the dash and under hood wiring, as well as the tail lights, but everything else I just can't see being a problem. Hell, 82-02 the seats and driveshafts all can be swapped

I'd really love to see a picture of an LS1 crossmember compared to an LT1's

95 Camaro Z28

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i want to see the comparison too.

and i agree with you, it really makes sense that it would all bolt up and just need to be worked with wiring.

but with the wiring would the solution be to get a 1997 harness and cut off the pigtails that i need and splice them in? or is there something different about them

my main concern is figuring out how to make the cluster work with everything.

there is no doubt it will bolt up alright and im sure its possible to rig up a tranny cross member but the capability of the wiring might be a bitch.

Formula350

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As I said, I'm pretty sure the newer clusters are a bolt in w/o problems. I would honestly just take all your under dash and engine harness. Everything else will then just plug in together. You MIGHT not even need to swap the under dash wiring if the firewall plug is the same between LT1 and LS1, if it is the same, then you'd have to worry about the ECM plugs. If the ECM between the LS1 and LT1 utilize the same plugs, then you can totally leave the dash harness alone and all you'd need to do is swap in the engine harness. The rest of the cars wiring can be left alone. I'm using 99 speakers in my 93 My 93 has the 10spkr but non Monsoon. The front 4 door speakers are all Monsoon now, which looked damn near the same as my 93's.

95 Camaro Z28

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i dont see why they wouldnt be the same..but if anyone can verify that would be great. sounds like its still possible, i mean i expect a few hang ups here and there.

if i do it wont be prolly winter, seeing has how long it could take.

if it can be done in a weekend i might consider it but anything much more than 3 to 5 days and im gunna have to wait

mpe331lx

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Why do you want to do this swap?
Is your LT1 car wrecked?
Does the ls1 body have a title? (the title goes with the body/shell)