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Old 06-30-2007, 08:39 PM
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Just wondering what fuel pressure you guys are running? Im at 46ish, and im fouling the hell outa my plugs. Im running tr55's. Could the O2' be having problems cuz im running open headers? I have about 20 minutes run time on the new Motor.

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here is what it sounded like before I fouled the plugs.

Old 06-30-2007, 11:55 PM
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well... I cant help you with your problem, BUT YOUR CAR SOUNDS AWESOME MAN! and looks good too.
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This probably wont help any but I ran open headers on my first LT1 for a very long time...(7-8 months) and never ever had a problem... so you might factor that variable out.
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is that 46 @ WOT or idle
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Off topic, but is your cam a custom grind?
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Unplug your 02's or put some kind of extension on the collectors.
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run stock lt4 ac delco platinum plugs, u wont foul em out. ive heard alot of aftermarket **** fouls out.
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Originally Posted by Red96TA
This probably wont help any but I ran open headers on my first LT1 for a very long time...(7-8 months) and never ever had a problem... so you might factor that variable out.
So did I with the stock motor amd tune, but now I have alot more mods. So I thought that may be a factor.

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is that 46 @ WOT or idle
It was set with the vacum port unpluged. I cant remember if it droped when I pluged the FPR back into to Vacum.

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Off topic, but is your cam a custom grind?
Not really, Its the cam that used to come with Golens top of the line motors before he switched to Lyod Elliots head cam packages.
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The only way to fix it will be to tune it with a wide band O2. IMO the 42 lb injectors are too big for your combination (30's would probably be a better match).

Good Luck,

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Trick Flow heads take different style plugs. I was using TR55s and I fouled them out also, then I got a set of autolite plugs for a stock LT1, becasue they were cheap, and fould those out too. Now I have NGK FR5s and haven't had a problem. Here are the plugs Trick Flow suggests for their LT1 heads:
Autolite 3924
Champion RC9YC
NGK FR5

Also, when I had open headers my o2s were constantly on the lean side, so your PCM might be seeing it running lean and dumping fuel in.
hope this helps a bit.
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If you think you can tune with fuel pressure then YOU are the problem.
Open headers within about a foot of the O2s and there will be fresh air reversion making the O2s see a false lean and the pcm will add fuel.
On plugs platinum does not belong in an engine like this so scratch that guys recommendation even besides the fact you need different plugs for the Trickflow heads.

You are throwing money at your car rather than research and knowledge, good luck, you need it this will be a long, slow, bumpy road.
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FR5s are not platinum
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
If you think you can tune with fuel pressure then YOU are the problem.
Open headers within about a foot of the O2s and there will be fresh air reversion making the O2s see a false lean and the pcm will add fuel.
On plugs platinum does not belong in an engine like this so scratch that guys recommendation even besides the fact you need different plugs for the Trickflow heads.

You are throwing money at your car rather than research and knowledge, good luck, you need it this will be a long, slow, bumpy road.
i think he was talking about me and not the FR5 plugs...
i have a 383 with stage 2 heads, 236/244 cam with over .600 lift, 30lb svo injectors and a mail tune and i am running those delco platinum plugs, i was reccomended by a speed shop to use them because all of the aftermarket plugs are ****.
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Got the correct plugs... Check

Now im waiting on the motor to cool b4 I check them again. Im gonna get my UMI TA in so I can bolt on the rest of my Exhaust. The S&W kit thats was in my car from when I had stock exhast, does not alow room for the ORY. Thats why I was running open headers.

How much pipe is needed behind the O2's to get a propper reading?


Thanks

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Originally Posted by moserman
i think he was talking about me and not the FR5 plugs...
i have a 383 with stage 2 heads, 236/244 cam with over .600 lift, 30lb svo injectors and a mail tune and i am running those delco platinum plugs, i was reccomended by a speed shop to use them because all of the aftermarket plugs are ****.
oh my bad 96caprice...

what plugs did you go with notacop?
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I replace the plugs, Put the new torque arm in, and fitted the exhaust. I ran it for about 10 minutes and it seems to be running better. well see how long it will take to foul these plugs.

Pete
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You will have that problem every time running open headers with O2's so close to fresh air. You should be ok now.
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I know thew UMI arm was upside down for the picture... Anyways I just wanted to show the POS S&W TA next to the UMI one. The S&W piece will not clear the ORY.


Here is the car idling with the exhaust in place and the cutout closed


Pete
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your MAF maybe dirty.
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So I put another twenty miles on the motor and my TPS is throwin a code. The plugs are staying clean so far, but with the TPS out it isnt idleing right.

Pete



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