One step closer to the Bolt-on LT1 record
Originally Posted by 95 Formula
Very nice times. I gues when SAR2K was the first to break in 11s all bolt ons it was bigger than we thought since he was at 3450+. good luck in your efforts man.
not to mention the DA on his runs were -1000+
Originally Posted by fast
I seriously doubt stephen was at that race weight
not to mention the DA on his runs were -1000+
not to mention the DA on his runs were -1000+
EDIT..I went back and found his post. Your right..I was wrong. He was at 3503
Well I've been busting my a$$ for a while now to reach this goal and last night (1/17) it all paid off. With a combo of GREAT air & awesome track prep I was able to lay down some great #'s.
1st run of the night was a 12.06 @ 110.68 with a 1.59 60'... spun.
2nd run= a 12.005 @ 110.72 on a 1.56 60'... dropped .5Lb air each tire
3rd run= a 11.97 @ 110.86 on a 1.55 60'... dropped another .5 Lb air and softened the pass side shock
These three runs were all within a 15 minute period with an air temp of 43*. After the 3rd run I was booted for no cage.
Luckily Frank95Z pulled some strings and was able to get me one more "unofficial" NT run then shut it down for the night.
For this run I pulled the belt off to see if it would do much... I was surprised by the MPH gain. Also the air was down to 37* at this point and the track was cooling, so I dropped 1 more Lb out of each tire... 18psi each.
4th run= 11.94 @ 111.50 on a 1.53 60'.
The normal set up for this car is a set of BFG DR's with skinnies up front and full exhaust, this has been good for 12.07 @ 110.15
Last night I was on ET Drags (my BFGs are showing steel belt) and had the cut out open.
With the 11 lb per tire weight savings over my BFGs I was at a race weight of 3503 last night. Still on pump gas.
Needless to say I'm VERY happy!!!
Thanks again Frank!!!
Steve...
1st run of the night was a 12.06 @ 110.68 with a 1.59 60'... spun.
2nd run= a 12.005 @ 110.72 on a 1.56 60'... dropped .5Lb air each tire
3rd run= a 11.97 @ 110.86 on a 1.55 60'... dropped another .5 Lb air and softened the pass side shock
These three runs were all within a 15 minute period with an air temp of 43*. After the 3rd run I was booted for no cage.
Luckily Frank95Z pulled some strings and was able to get me one more "unofficial" NT run then shut it down for the night.
For this run I pulled the belt off to see if it would do much... I was surprised by the MPH gain. Also the air was down to 37* at this point and the track was cooling, so I dropped 1 more Lb out of each tire... 18psi each.
4th run= 11.94 @ 111.50 on a 1.53 60'.
The normal set up for this car is a set of BFG DR's with skinnies up front and full exhaust, this has been good for 12.07 @ 110.15
Last night I was on ET Drags (my BFGs are showing steel belt) and had the cut out open.
With the 11 lb per tire weight savings over my BFGs I was at a race weight of 3503 last night. Still on pump gas.
Needless to say I'm VERY happy!!!
Thanks again Frank!!!
Steve...
how can a TA weigh so much more than a Z28?
I know he had a tubular K-member even back is '02
that's just crazy
but if he said it was 3500 I believe him (seemed like a nice guy when I met him in NJ)
I know he had a tubular K-member even back is '02
that's just crazy
but if he said it was 3500 I believe him (seemed like a nice guy when I met him in NJ)
It still had full leather interior, and even A/C I believe when he went 11s. And the TA is the heaviest of the f-bodys in stock form. That wing weights a ton..lol. I think he put that k-member in..or should I say we put it in..right before his trip up north. I think that may have been after his 11 sec. run. One thing about steve he is always very upfront on what was/is done to his cars so you can bet that is what it weighted. I honestly don't know how you guys get so light. My formula was 3350 when I went 10.3s. I hope to be down to the 3150 ish range this time out but I have taken EVERYTHING out of the car. Maybe the camaro is just that much lighter.
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Originally Posted by LT14LIFE JT
Nice job. Way to go! Good luck and keep on trying. As soon as it cools down, you'll see 11s for sure. You've got the mph now, so keep on trying. What's left on mods?
95 Formula - I was around back when Steve first got there, and have followed a lot of the faster bolt-on guys, and even traded PM's and emails with them. Steve had a damn quick car for the weight, but he also had more into his combo them I do. I found it cheeper to go with weight reduction (bolt-off's) then spending money I don't have on bolt-ons. And yes it was a huge accomplishment when he first hit 11's because everyone at the time thought that it was impossible, myself included. Oh and thanks for offering me the luck, I should be able to get there without it, but luck never hurts...
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Originally Posted by LT14LIFE JT
Nice job. Way to go! Good luck and keep on trying. As soon as it cools down, you'll see 11s for sure. You've got the mph now, so keep on trying. What's left on mods?
As far as what's left, I still have a lot of things to do to help but no money. The cool thing is I got to where I am on almost no budget, doing things slowly, and cheeply, and that includes things like making my own parts and doing my own tuning...
Parts/power mods still left to do are:
- suspension
- gears
- TB
- dynotune
- and probably a few more...
As far as weight goes I still have a few little things I can still remove in the future like:
- door bars
- washer tank/pump
- hood and hatch shocks
- center console
- horns, or at least one of them
- underhood wiring for items no longer in use (the first list)
Plus the things that I need money for:
- front suspension (K-member, A-arms, and etc.)
- lightweight brakes, front and rear
- ABS delete kit
- Fibreglass hood
- manual rack
- manual brakes
- aftermarket coolant overflow
- lightweight seat
After and if I ever get to the point all that above is done, I will start cutting:
- Frame horns
- interior brackets (mounts for rear seats, seatbelts, and etc.)
- subfenders
- and misc, swiss cheesing
I'm sure there are things I have missed but that is most of it...
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Originally Posted by daniel6718
if you really want your fuel to atomise better heat it up before it goes into the motor...
Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula
Thanks, and that is the plan to try when the weather gets better..
As far as what's left, I still have a lot of things to do to help but no money. The cool thing is I got to where I am on almost no budget, doing things slowly, and cheeply, and that includes things like making my own parts and doing my own tuning...
Parts/power mods still left to do are:
- suspension
- gears
- TB
- dynotune
- and probably a few more...
As far as weight goes I still have a few little things I can still remove in the future like:
- door bars
- washer tank/pump
- hood and hatch shocks
- center console
- horns, or at least one of them
- underhood wiring for items no longer in use (the first list)
Plus the things that I need money for:
- front suspension (K-member, A-arms, and etc.)
- lightweight brakes, front and rear
- ABS delete kit
- Fibreglass hood
- manual rack
- manual brakes
- aftermarket coolant overflow
- lightweight seat
After and if I ever get to the point all that above is done, I will start cutting:
- Frame horns
- interior brackets (mounts for rear seats, seatbelts, and etc.)
- subfenders
- and misc, swiss cheesing
I'm sure there are things I have missed but that is most of it...
As far as what's left, I still have a lot of things to do to help but no money. The cool thing is I got to where I am on almost no budget, doing things slowly, and cheeply, and that includes things like making my own parts and doing my own tuning...
Parts/power mods still left to do are:
- suspension
- gears
- TB
- dynotune
- and probably a few more...
As far as weight goes I still have a few little things I can still remove in the future like:
- door bars
- washer tank/pump
- hood and hatch shocks
- center console
- horns, or at least one of them
- underhood wiring for items no longer in use (the first list)
Plus the things that I need money for:
- front suspension (K-member, A-arms, and etc.)
- lightweight brakes, front and rear
- ABS delete kit
- Fibreglass hood
- manual rack
- manual brakes
- aftermarket coolant overflow
- lightweight seat
After and if I ever get to the point all that above is done, I will start cutting:
- Frame horns
- interior brackets (mounts for rear seats, seatbelts, and etc.)
- subfenders
- and misc, swiss cheesing
I'm sure there are things I have missed but that is most of it...
this makes me wanna put my stock shortblock back in
I was at the same et as you w/o the 3.73s and weight of around 3350
think I might still be the quickest bolt-on only 3.23 LT1 (12.44)
if I had my way, this whole LTx shootout would happen and we'd all get to see the new bolt-on record set there
now go beg/borrow/steal a vid cam so we can all see it when it does happen
Bird_of_Prey: I got advice from MFBA members and just started with the freebies and the simple stuff, tried and true f t w
I was at the same et as you w/o the 3.73s and weight of around 3350
think I might still be the quickest bolt-on only 3.23 LT1 (12.44)
if I had my way, this whole LTx shootout would happen and we'd all get to see the new bolt-on record set there
now go beg/borrow/steal a vid cam so we can all see it when it does happen
Bird_of_Prey: I got advice from MFBA members and just started with the freebies and the simple stuff, tried and true f t w
Last edited by fast; Aug 21, 2007 at 11:19 AM.
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From: West Linn, Oregon
Originally Posted by Bird_Of_Prey
Is your current mod list accurate? Any recommendations for someone getting started with a bolt on LT1?
A full list of mods would go like this:
home depot 4" PVC CAI, descreened and bored MAF by me, 1.6RR's, LT4 valve springs, cups, and retainers, Pacesetter LT's, ORY, dumped bullet muffler, CSR WP, 160* T-stat, t-body bypass, pcmforless base mailorder tune tweeked by me at the track, CPT Race Rebuilt 4L60E, 3500 Vig., 3.73's, Summit rearend cover, Comp. Eng. rear shocks, QA1 front shocks and springs, weld draglites with M/T 275 60 DR's, spohn drag swaybar, PAF CM subframes, Odyssey battery, and a crapload of weight removed...
I think that's the full mod list...
Oh, and I have an airfoil...
Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula
Thanks, and that is the plan to try when the weather gets better..
As far as what's left, I still have a lot of things to do to help but no money. The cool thing is I got to where I am on almost no budget, doing things slowly, and cheeply, and that includes things like making my own parts and doing my own tuning...
Parts/power mods still left to do are:
- suspension
- gears
- TB
- dynotune
- and probably a few more...
As far as weight goes I still have a few little things I can still remove in the future like:
- door bars
- washer tank/pump
- hood and hatch shocks
- center console
- horns, or at least one of them
- underhood wiring for items no longer in use (the first list)
Plus the things that I need money for:
- front suspension (K-member, A-arms, and etc.)
- lightweight brakes, front and rear
- ABS delete kit
- Fibreglass hood
- manual rack
- manual brakes
- aftermarket coolant overflow
- lightweight seat
After and if I ever get to the point all that above is done, I will start cutting:
- Frame horns
- interior brackets (mounts for rear seats, seatbelts, and etc.)
- subfenders
- and misc, swiss cheesing
I'm sure there are things I have missed but that is most of it...
As far as what's left, I still have a lot of things to do to help but no money. The cool thing is I got to where I am on almost no budget, doing things slowly, and cheeply, and that includes things like making my own parts and doing my own tuning...
Parts/power mods still left to do are:
- suspension
- gears
- TB
- dynotune
- and probably a few more...
As far as weight goes I still have a few little things I can still remove in the future like:
- door bars
- washer tank/pump
- hood and hatch shocks
- center console
- horns, or at least one of them
- underhood wiring for items no longer in use (the first list)
Plus the things that I need money for:
- front suspension (K-member, A-arms, and etc.)
- lightweight brakes, front and rear
- ABS delete kit
- Fibreglass hood
- manual rack
- manual brakes
- aftermarket coolant overflow
- lightweight seat
After and if I ever get to the point all that above is done, I will start cutting:
- Frame horns
- interior brackets (mounts for rear seats, seatbelts, and etc.)
- subfenders
- and misc, swiss cheesing
I'm sure there are things I have missed but that is most of it...
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Ok I was getting the car ready for my race tomorrow, and decided to change the oil since I honestly don't remember when I last did it, well I was working off the 3000 miles thing but forgot that I don't drive the car on the street anymore... 
So I decided to try royal purple, it is actually purple oil 
, and when changing it the old stuff was black, and when I pulled off the oil filter I found that it was the same one in there when I installed the headers last year in May because there are still marks on it from the header install... 
I also checked my fuel filter, and it was pretty dirty too, and realize it hasn't been changed in over 4 years...
I guess we'll see what tomorrow holds since I actually did some maintenance on this damn car, I wonder if this would be enough for 11's, I guess only the weather will tell...
So I decided to try royal purple, it is actually purple oil , and when changing it the old stuff was black, and when I pulled off the oil filter I found that it was the same one in there when I installed the headers last year in May because there are still marks on it from the header install... I also checked my fuel filter, and it was pretty dirty too, and realize it hasn't been changed in over 4 years...
I guess we'll see what tomorrow holds since I actually did some maintenance on this damn car, I wonder if this would be enough for 11's, I guess only the weather will tell...
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with the heat and humidity that we had today and the altitude of the track I was running 12.37 @ 109ish with the current setup so I was down quite a bit from last week, but it was also 15* hotter and so humid that I don't think I stopped sweating all day...I did try a 26" tire just to see what it would do for me, but the 26"ers were very old (~5+ year) Nitto drag radials
, and I couldn't get then to hook. I was able to still run a faster time with them dispite the worse 60', but nothing better then where I was but damn good for the weather today and compaired to my runs with the 28" tires 
. So, now I just need a better 26" tire to try and see what that does... 
im thinking i need to pull my idea of a cam and start takin weght out. i stil have all power options full interior and ac....i deleted my bumper supports and rear seats but thats it. 34xx race weight 35xx with me in it it went a 7.92 1.77 60' a@ 86 on stock suspension havent gottento the track since i did the t/a lcas and relo brackets but it should be a LOT better now so im runnin up on ya 
now i wanna do tubular k and a arms, delete the ac, pass seat, HVAC and lose some wiring
now i wanna do tubular k and a arms, delete the ac, pass seat, HVAC and lose some wiring
Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula
with the heat and humidity that we had today and the altitude of the track I was running 12.37 @ 109ish with the current setup so I was down quite a bit from last week, but it was also 15* hotter and so humid that I don't think I stopped sweating all day...I did try a 26" tire just to see what it would do for me, but the 26"ers were very old (~5+ year) Nitto drag radials
, and I couldn't get then to hook. I was able to still run a faster time with them dispite the worse 60', but nothing better then where I was but damn good for the weather today and compaired to my runs with the 28" tires . So, now I just need a better 26" tire to try and see what that does...
Better luck next time. I'm sure the DA was off yesterday. You'll see better times with the shorter tire. I'm glad you decided for that. 
