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Is a EWP Really worth it??

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Old 06-12-2008, 03:09 PM
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Do you guys think an Eletric Water Pump is really worth it??
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yeah, if your stock one goes bad
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You should notice a difference.
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I have a Meziere on my car(was on it when I bought it) and I hate it honestly. Around town its alright, but out on the highway it tends to run a little warmer than I like it to. And plus its actually starting to go out anyways, its starting to groan and whine and leak from its weep holes. So this weekend Im pulling it off and replacing it with a standard water pump and be done with it. Its a good excuse to replace my opti too since its starting to act up. I just wish everything would have waited a little longer till I had my heads and cam and could have done it all at one time.
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^^^its funny how water pumps and opti's tend to act up together huh,

mine is almost back on the road jason.... be scared
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Originally Posted by JasonC
I have a Meziere on my car(was on it when I bought it) and I hate it honestly. Around town its alright, but out on the highway it tends to run a little warmer than I like it to. And plus its actually starting to go out anyways, its starting to groan and whine and leak from its weep holes. So this weekend Im pulling it off and replacing it with a standard water pump and be done with it. Its a good excuse to replace my opti too since its starting to act up. I just wish everything would have waited a little longer till I had my heads and cam and could have done it all at one time.
Maybee a bit of a pita. Your going to have to pull the timing cover back off to put the gear drive back in and then put the the t/c back wich can be a pita b/c you have to lower the oil pan. Mine runs a little warm on the highway as well but im used to it now. I'll just be replacing mine with another ewp.
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i have a meziere HD and i like it alot. i run a low temp thermostat(160*) and i use the royal purple coolant additive and i never see more than 175-180* on my temp gauge,,, it seems like. i noticed a difference from before and after the mod.
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Electric waterpumps do free up power, the car will feel and genuinely be a little slower with a mechanical. The power usage difference is because the electrics move less water so they need less power to operate.

For a street car IMO the electrics are bad because of the failure mode, frequently sudden and total. Where a mechanical will almost always weep for some time first giving you warning.

They are however good for drag cars looking for that one extra tenth. I will likely try one this year for that purpose.
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I 've got one and have not had any problems around town at the track or on the highway. I also have a 160 thermostat and the big *** Be Cool radiator. It's been on the car about a year now and no problems yet. I probaly shouldn't have said that!
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I don't want to say they are trouble prone, just that when they do wear out and eventually they do that the failure mode means you notice it immediately or engine damage is likely.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
I don't want to say they are trouble prone, just that when they do wear out and eventually they do that the failure mode means you notice it immediately or engine damage is likely.
There are ways to prevent that, warning light...
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yes....the single best mod for a lt1 is ewp....
ive had a mechanical completely strip the teeth off the drive gear and instantly overheat...so its a tossup about the failure...i can say ive had 2 mechanicals fail and no electrics...

then again ive never had an opti fail in 4 years and about 6 cars
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I dont mind having to pull the front cover if I have to, dont really want to but oh well. I just wish I had my heads already so I could do it all at once. Just need to pick up the cam from a friend. Then just a ported intake and 58mm tb and a tune will finish it up.
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I recently switched over to a CSR EWP and recommend the conversion. The reliability factor was something I considered because my car is a daily but I still chose to because the benefits are still there. There is risk with any part that it will fail sudden with damage as a result. If you wire it properly you can wire in fail-safes and warning systems to make it as pain-free as possible if it does fail.
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Have had the meizere on for about 7 years, no problem. OEM ones leaked and caused Opti problems which is why I finally did the swap.

At the track I run it in the pits to cool motor down quickly.

Bought a 2nd one used as a back up to keep in the trunk....never needed it but if so I could swap it on the side of the road.

I did not remove the WP drive gear so a stock one could easily be put on.
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Worth every penny, just get the light to show if the EWP goes dead.
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Worth it for extra power, yes it is, plus sitting in traffic it keeps the engine cooler since it's a constant flow rate and not progressive like the mechanical. Also if one should fail they are easy to replace. Just unbolt it from the housing and put on a new one, literally takes like 20 minutes as opposed to a mechanical that take a good couple couple of hours to unbolt everything clean and install gaskets, refill coolant, etc.
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It does have it's downside if you don't have the light, which I do not. It's a pain always looking at the temp gauge. But I like the few extra ponies and the fact your taking some load off that front cam bearing.
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how did everyone cut the fan shroud to make it fit? Did you have to cut the fan as well?
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i just took that fan out....


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