The OFFICIAL LTX Shootout 09 smack talkin thread
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I just look at us being street cars which race occasionally for some excitement and do not want to go against race cars and pro racers. I do not have my car set to be maxed out in either NA or N20 form since it will take the street driving fun away from it.
This just my opinion and that doesn't make it wrong or right.
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Hey Giz maybe you should gear down LOL! Yeah I N/A race most every weekend when I can. AND my car DID come the way yours did and I ADDed the other stuff, BFD! LOL
Pull the stick out of your *** buddy you will have more fun
Why should every one else bend to the rules to fit YOUR car?
"I" have 28s and 3.73s and I am going through the traps at 7,100 on the limiter. You do not see me begging to get the rules changed do you? NO I am working on MYM end to FIT the rules... Try it some time.
"dont try to change the rules to allow ur own car in the class.... lets just see what tony comes out with for class rules then if ur car fits then there ya go, if not then it dosent... its simple.....
besides that... i love my street car"
EXACTLY!!
"hey..I thought street cars are supposed to have spools?"
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Pull the stick out of your *** buddy you will have more fun
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"I" have 28s and 3.73s and I am going through the traps at 7,100 on the limiter. You do not see me begging to get the rules changed do you? NO I am working on MYM end to FIT the rules... Try it some time.
"dont try to change the rules to allow ur own car in the class.... lets just see what tony comes out with for class rules then if ur car fits then there ya go, if not then it dosent... its simple.....
besides that... i love my street car"
EXACTLY!!
"hey..I thought street cars are supposed to have spools?"
Me To Larry
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Wow! Your tone is way out of line.
In regards to the rules, Tony stated that they were thinking of making changes and would like to try to accomodate Stockers. Did you miss that?
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As long as there is at least one heads up race class, that I can race in, Ill be happy!!!
But I dont want to have to race full on race cars!!! That would be like driving across the country just to know your gonna loose.
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Ill also bracket race it but thats Kinda lame compared to heads up racing!!
Maybe run NA classes by ETs Like 9.0-10.0, 10.01-11.0 , 11.01-12.0 etc. You break out you lose just like bracket racing but heads up. That will make it much better for everyone.
But I dont want to have to race full on race cars!!! That would be like driving across the country just to know your gonna loose.
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Ill also bracket race it but thats Kinda lame compared to heads up racing!!
Maybe run NA classes by ETs Like 9.0-10.0, 10.01-11.0 , 11.01-12.0 etc. You break out you lose just like bracket racing but heads up. That will make it much better for everyone.
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comments like if a built NA car can't beat a SS then maybe people need to work harder is offensive to me
I think my car for example runs damn good for what it is and I know I still have power on the table with heads, intake, gearing, etc, but by your response you think differently
if I'm reading you wrong then I'm sorry, but the way you state things to people seems as if you are degrading most builds on this site to make a better reason to suit the rules for you car
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Gizmo in the defense of Ellis I read your posts as coming off as a smart ***, but by your response I may take that back if you are not.
comments like if a built NA car can't beat a SS then maybe people need to work harder is offensive to me
I think my car for example runs damn good for what it is and I know I still have power on the table with heads, intake, gearing, etc, but by your response you think differently
if I'm reading you wrong then I'm sorry, but the way you state things to people seems as if you are degrading most builds on this site to make a better reason to suit the rules for you car
comments like if a built NA car can't beat a SS then maybe people need to work harder is offensive to me
I think my car for example runs damn good for what it is and I know I still have power on the table with heads, intake, gearing, etc, but by your response you think differently
if I'm reading you wrong then I'm sorry, but the way you state things to people seems as if you are degrading most builds on this site to make a better reason to suit the rules for you car
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Some people come to have a good time
I don't plan on taking home any of those sexy trophies, but I do plan on meeting a lot of
cool people and having a great time burnin' rubber
Some people come to have a good time
I don't plan on taking home any of those sexy trophies, but I do plan on meeting a lot of
cool people and having a great time burnin' rubber
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Gizmo in the defense of Ellis I read your posts as coming off as a smart ***, but by your response I may take that back if you are not.
comments like if a built NA car can't beat a SS then maybe people need to work harder is offensive to me
I think my car for example runs damn good for what it is and I know I still have power on the table with heads, intake, gearing, etc, but by your response you think differently
if I'm reading you wrong then I'm sorry, but the way you state things to people seems as if you are degrading most builds on this site to make a better reason to suit the rules for you car
comments like if a built NA car can't beat a SS then maybe people need to work harder is offensive to me
I think my car for example runs damn good for what it is and I know I still have power on the table with heads, intake, gearing, etc, but by your response you think differently
if I'm reading you wrong then I'm sorry, but the way you state things to people seems as if you are degrading most builds on this site to make a better reason to suit the rules for you car
I assure you that I was not looking to offend anyone. I just feel that you guys are leaving a lot on the table. A SS (Super Stock) car is in no way a Stocker. My Stocker made 402 rwhp and ran a 10.53 at 3000 lbs. So, if you do the math and add 300 lbs you will see that my coments were not out of line. I really feel that I would have to work hard on my stuff to beat most of the 383-396 cars. Maybe I am wrong?
Everyone has the right to disagree and I am fine with that. I just don't care for the off colour stuff.
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Let the stock eliminator cars run in Outlaw....... Just be prepared to get dominated.... I drive my car on the street but it is not what I would consider a "dedicated" street car.. It drives fine on the street..... But i wouldn't do it everyday...
So if stock eliminator cars are Race cars. Then have them race other race cars. The top of the LTx food chain...... just know that we are coming with twin turbo's, multiple stages of spray and single plane conversions, and F3R Prochargers...
I don't care about 30" tires in Outlaw but if you're gonna allow 30's you should then allow "W" tires.... or allow 30's and a max "W" tire of 28"..... Cause hell the section width and rollout on those don't give an advantage to either....
So if stock eliminator cars are Race cars. Then have them race other race cars. The top of the LTx food chain...... just know that we are coming with twin turbo's, multiple stages of spray and single plane conversions, and F3R Prochargers...
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I don't care about 30" tires in Outlaw but if you're gonna allow 30's you should then allow "W" tires.... or allow 30's and a max "W" tire of 28"..... Cause hell the section width and rollout on those don't give an advantage to either....
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Daren..as mentioned most people as myself leave stuff on the table to have a bit more streetable car as to where you are getting the most out of your given combo as you need to..gear, tire, converter etc. and seem to have a lot of knowledge to do so and I respect that.
just see how some of us see your responses as being negative and it looks as if you are out for yourself
as you said lets see how the rules pan out and hope everyone can be happy and make for an even better even then last year
just see how some of us see your responses as being negative and it looks as if you are out for yourself
as you said lets see how the rules pan out and hope everyone can be happy and make for an even better even then last year
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Let the stock eliminator cars run in Outlaw....... Just be prepared to get dominated.... I drive my car on the street but it is not what I would consider a "dedicated" street car.. It drives fine on the street..... But i wouldn't do it everyday...
So if stock eliminator cars are Race cars. Then have them race other race cars. The top of the LTx food chain...... just know that we are coming with twin turbo's, multiple stages of spray and single plane conversions, and F3R Prochargers...
I don't care about 30" tires in Outlaw but if you're gonna allow 30's you should then allow "W" tires.... or allow 30's and a max "W" tire of 28"..... Cause hell the section width and rollout on those don't give an advantage to either....
So if stock eliminator cars are Race cars. Then have them race other race cars. The top of the LTx food chain...... just know that we are coming with twin turbo's, multiple stages of spray and single plane conversions, and F3R Prochargers...
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I don't care about 30" tires in Outlaw but if you're gonna allow 30's you should then allow "W" tires.... or allow 30's and a max "W" tire of 28"..... Cause hell the section width and rollout on those don't give an advantage to either....
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I don't think it's right to throw the Stock Eliminator cars into the Outlaw class, but it's also not right to allow a 30" tire into a class that will have 95% 'street' cars in it
Taner-maybe a street car
My car-barely a street car
Tony-street car only in texas
Sikora-street car if the street is a quarter mile long with three turnoffs at the end
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Those are just 4 of the cars I can think of for outlaw definitely.... and they aren't completely streetable cars.....
And yes you have to cut a bunch to get 30's under there which is why I said only in Outlaw class.... as long as they run NA run in outlaw.... I don't need 30's to run sub 9's on 2 units.... I run on a 28x10.5W....
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Giz. The term "off color" in and of it self offends people but you did not hesitate to use. Maybe because in your area it is an excepted practice. I will do my very best to try not to offend people of thinner skin.
My goal was not to offend you in any way but make a strong enough statment to get your attention as nothing else any one was saying even got you to look at it from their side of the table. Some times a slap on the back of the head works![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
Do tell me this. Just how many SS cars do you think are going to show or Would show if we changed the rules to accept them...the weekend of a national event only miles away from ours? I am guessing we could give them there very own class but the only cars to show up would be cars that did not make the field for the national event with ours only being a way to not loose the entire weekend.
the fastest run in the class last year was an 11.0. I figure it is going to pick up some this year but do you really feel a SS car will not have an advantage in the N/A class?
It really is not that hard to run a smaller tire and get the car tagged is it? If that is all we are talking I do not see the big problem? Hell msot guys bought tires just for this event last year including me and I did not get to bring my car in the end. BUT My car fit the rules that were set.
YES everyone would like to see more cars and great racing. BUT they do not yet want the run away you see at other events.
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My goal was not to offend you in any way but make a strong enough statment to get your attention as nothing else any one was saying even got you to look at it from their side of the table. Some times a slap on the back of the head works
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Do tell me this. Just how many SS cars do you think are going to show or Would show if we changed the rules to accept them...the weekend of a national event only miles away from ours? I am guessing we could give them there very own class but the only cars to show up would be cars that did not make the field for the national event with ours only being a way to not loose the entire weekend.
the fastest run in the class last year was an 11.0. I figure it is going to pick up some this year but do you really feel a SS car will not have an advantage in the N/A class?
It really is not that hard to run a smaller tire and get the car tagged is it? If that is all we are talking I do not see the big problem? Hell msot guys bought tires just for this event last year including me and I did not get to bring my car in the end. BUT My car fit the rules that were set.
YES everyone would like to see more cars and great racing. BUT they do not yet want the run away you see at other events.
Thank you for your time
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I think we're talking about 2 different classes.... Don't throw them in NA class, put them in Outlaw.... i HIGHLY doubt that the outlaw class will be 95% street car.....
Taner-maybe a street car
My car-barely a street car
Tony-street car only in texas
Sikora-street car if the street is a quarter mile long with three turnoffs at the end![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
Those are just 4 of the cars I can think of for outlaw definitely.... and they aren't completely streetable cars.....
And yes you have to cut a bunch to get 30's under there which is why I said only in Outlaw class.... as long as they run NA run in outlaw.... I don't need 30's to run sub 9's on 2 units.... I run on a 28x10.5W....
Taner-maybe a street car
My car-barely a street car
Tony-street car only in texas
Sikora-street car if the street is a quarter mile long with three turnoffs at the end
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Those are just 4 of the cars I can think of for outlaw definitely.... and they aren't completely streetable cars.....
And yes you have to cut a bunch to get 30's under there which is why I said only in Outlaw class.... as long as they run NA run in outlaw.... I don't need 30's to run sub 9's on 2 units.... I run on a 28x10.5W....
I believe they fit in the N/A class much better, but NOT with a 30" tire, as the N/A class will likely have 95% street cars in it and it takes a lot of cutting (ala 'race' car) to get the 30" tire to fit.