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Old 09-16-2009 | 04:49 PM
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Default I think I've made the decision to convert to M6

Like the title says, I am ready to make the plunge. Please don't post the following.

"Should have bought a M6"
"It's cheaper to buy a M6"
"Auto's are more consistent at the track"

I have religiously looked through the A4-->M6 thread. I am fully aware of what needs to be done, and how to do it. I just want to verify a few things. Please tell me if I am right on these things.

1. M6 PCM: it's not required, because my current 2001 A4 PCM can be reprogrammed.

2. M6 Wiring harness will make the following options work. Cruise, Reverse-Light, Reverse lock-out, and CAGS (Will be disabled quickly) without pigtails.

3. Once you cut the Unibody, and included mounting bolts locations, you would not be able to convert it back to a Auto easily.

4. I have LS1 Edit (purchased in 2002), and would be able to change it from A4, M6 ECM wise.

And of course, if anyone could help push me to the darside of the fence by saying something like "I'm glad I did it" or "Never looked back when it was done"

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Chris
Old 09-16-2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by white2001formula
3. Once you cut the Unibody, and included mounting bolts locations, you would not be able to convert it back to a Auto easily.


Thanks,
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Well, not sure why you think need to cut the unibody for teh swap, as you don't need to.

If looking for support...you came to teh right place...we are all about manual's in here...
Old 09-16-2009 | 05:12 PM
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The writeup states you have to cut out part of the section where the auto-shifter bolts to. This is for the "new" manual shifter. I guess that's what I considered the "unibody."

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Old 09-16-2009 | 05:21 PM
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yea but if you wanted an auto again u would be able to just weld a piece of sheet metal in its place i did my m6 swap and never looked back
Old 09-16-2009 | 09:11 PM
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here are some pics of a swap i help out with

http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i8...%20ls6%20swap/
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Thanks for the responses so far. Can anyone verify that if I buy a M6 Harness/PCM, that all the M6 options would work?
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Not all of them would work. You need to re-wire the Reverse Lights in the Car to make them work, the stock Wiring at the moment comes from the Connector on the Auto Shifter. That and you need to put the Cruise Disengage Switch on the Clutch Petal.

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Thanks Merv,

Cruise, and Reverse Lockout work though?

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I don't know about the Cruse.. my LT1 Car was wired differently for it. Rev Lockout will work for you when you get the PCM re-tuned.
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Well now I'm confused. If you do a M6 Swap, I know it's not required to get a M6 Harness. It sounds like their are no additional benefits to buying one then.
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Originally Posted by white2001formula
Well now I'm confused. If you do a M6 Swap, I know it's not required to get a M6 Harness. It sounds like their are no additional benefits to buying one then.
I didn't buy one. I wired everything up myself.

Best mod I've ever done.
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Originally Posted by 94Z28rag
I didn't buy one. I wired everything up myself.

Best mod I've ever done.
x2!!!!!!!!!
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If i had the space and the time to spare i would have done mine so that being said, i paid someone to do it. All I needed to do is buy the parts: low mileage T56 with the sensors, shifter and the mount, LS7 clutch assembly, M6 pedals/pig tails to swap it from A4, M6 console, new pilot bearing, new master cylinder, new hydraulic cylinder, remote bleeder, drill mod, rear main seal and hptuners for my M6 tune.

Total cost was 3.5K dollars including labor but I recouped some of that from selling my A4 stuff. This was all done within three days.

Best mod evar IMO.
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Originally Posted by white2001formula
Well now I'm confused. If you do a M6 Swap, I know it's not required to get a M6 Harness. It sounds like their are no additional benefits to buying one then.
You will have Wiring to do in the Harness if you keep the Auto one. With the M6 one it's setup already.
Regardless of the Harness there is still wiring on the Interior of the Car that you have to do.

Originally Posted by 94Z28rag
I didn't buy one. I wired everything up myself.

Best mod I've ever done.
Same thing I did..
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Hey man, I did the swap myself and I do love banging gears. Sure it's not going to perform as well at the track bc of the rear end, but I still love it when rolling down the highway.

Don't buy an M6 harness, just use yours. All you have to do is cut the neutral safety switch wires (there are 6 of them). These are all the wires you need for it to run. Also you need a stock M6 trans cross-member.

The hardest part is getting the master cylinder in the right spot and lined up. I had to remove mine prob 10 times before it go to the point where I felt good with it.

I didn't hook up my skip shift, reverse lock-out or cruise. Only thing I think I will hook back up is the cruise.
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Originally Posted by bene
If i had the space and the time to spare i would have done mine so that being said, i paid someone to do it. All I needed to do is buy the parts: low mileage T56 with the sensors, shifter and the mount, LS7 clutch assembly, M6 pedals/pig tails to swap it from A4, M6 console, new pilot bearing, new master cylinder, new hydraulic cylinder, remote bleeder, drill mod, rear main seal and hptuners for my M6 tune.

Total cost was 3.5K dollars including labor but I recouped some of that from selling my A4 stuff. This was all done within three days.

Best mod evar IMO.
Jeez, I bought a complete swap off a board member, new Spec stage 3 and billet flywheel, pro 5.0, console, etc and had it in the car for less than $2500.
Old 09-17-2009 | 04:58 PM
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Cool, thanks for all the help so far. I've read quite a bit up on the install. I just need to piece some stuff together now. I'm heading to Otting & Sons this weekend I believe.




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