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Old 01-30-2010, 12:50 PM
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I just came across this write up online, anyone use it before? Think it will really work without touching the bleed screw on the slave?

http://www.performanceworks1.com/ls1...h_bleeding.htm
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If you do a search, its been mentioned lots of times and has helped people in the past. I've used this method once or twice too.
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Nice, thanks for posting this up looks great instead of getting under the car!
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it works very well. i had a bitch of a time bleeding the system untill i got a mity vac
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Or if you look at the cap you'll see i little hole in it.. Take out the little black condom and use the same thing but just cover the hole with it and you can feel it suck out the air..Just another method, same concept..
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Its great for getting the air out on initial install but you're still going to have to crawl under to change out the fluid when it gets dirty over time. I would get a remote bleeder to install on your next clutch.
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this method doesnt work if you dont bench bleed the master cylinder and slave cylinder.
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you also have to be careful you don't put too much vacuum on the system or you'll blow out the seals in the master.
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^good to know
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Originally Posted by camaroslpss
I just came across this write up online, anyone use it before? Think it will really work without touching the bleed screw on the slave?

http://www.performanceworks1.com/ls1...h_bleeding.htm
i've used this method a few times and find that it only really works if you've already properly bench bled the master. trust me i've had my trans off 5 times now for multiple reasons and actually had to replace 3 slaves. so with the multiple bleeds i'd say it works to a certain degree. just make sure you have a properly bench bled master
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Remote Bleeder for me, takes me about 2 minutes to bleed a completely empty Clutch setup..without Bench Bleeding..

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Originally Posted by Mart00SS
Its great for getting the air out on initial install but you're still going to have to crawl under to change out the fluid when it gets dirty over time. I would get a remote bleeder to install on your next clutch.
X2. Very good idea.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Remote Bleeder for me, takes me about 2 minutes to bleed a completely empty Clutch setup..without Bench Bleeding..
+1. If you want to make your own remote bleeder and install it without pulling the tranny here is how.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...nsmission.html
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hope that dude knws he blew out every seal in his master when he went past twenty psi.
do it the best way and get a pressure bleeder and dont go past ten psi. motive sells them for 70 shipped for our cars.
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Originally Posted by bww3588
this method doesnt work if you dont bench bleed the master cylinder and slave cylinder.
Not true. This is in fact the revised method in the Chevy manual for bleeding the brakes. This method works great and only takes a few minutes.

Bulletin No.: 01-07-31-002B

Date: November 01, 2006

INFORMATION

Subject:
Improved Bleeding Procedure for Hydraulic Clutch Release System

Models:
2007 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks (including Saturn)
2007 and Prior Chevrolet and GMC 6-7F T-Series Medium Duty Tilt Cab Models
2007 and Prior Isuzu F-Series Medium Duty Tilt Cab Models
2006-2007 HUMMER H3

Supercede:

This bulletin is being revised to add model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 01-07-31-002A (Section 07 - Transmission/Transaxle). This bulletin is being issued to inform dealers of an improved procedure to aid in the ease of bleeding the clutch hydraulic system for the above listed vehicles. This procedure can be used anytime air is introduced into the hydraulic system. Following this procedure may also reduce the number of unnecessary parts replaced for low clutch pedal reserve and high shift effort.

Verify that all the lines and fittings are dry and secure.

Clean the dirt and grease from the reservoir cap in order to ensure that no foreign substances enter the system.

Remove the reservoir cap.

Fill the reservoir to the proper level with the required fluid.

Attach the J 43485 (Adapter) to the J 35555 (Mity Vac), or equivalent.

Brake fluid will deteriorate the rubber on J 43485. Use a clean shop cloth to wipe away the fluid after each use.

Place and hold the adapter on the reservoir filler neck to ensure a tight fit. In some cases, the adapter will fit into the reservoir opening.

Apply a vacuum of 51-68 kPa (15-20 hg) and remove the adapter.

Refill the reservoir to the proper level.

Repeat Steps 6 and 7.

If needed, refill the reservoir and continue to pull a vacuum until no more bubbles can be seen in the reservoir or until the fluid level no longer drops.

The vehicle will move if started in gear before the Actuator Cylinder is refilled and operational. Start the vehicle the first time in neutral to help prevent personal injury from vehicle movement and see if the transmission will shift easily into gear.

Pump the clutch pedal until firm (to refill actuator cylinder).

Add additional fluid if needed.

Test drive vehicle to ensure proper operation.
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Originally Posted by DaddySS
Not true. This is in fact the revised method in the Chevy manual for bleeding the brakes. This method works great and only takes a few minutes.

Bulletin No.: 01-07-31-002B

Date: November 01, 2006

INFORMATION

Subject:
Improved Bleeding Procedure for Hydraulic Clutch Release System

Models:
2007 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks (including Saturn)
2007 and Prior Chevrolet and GMC 6-7F T-Series Medium Duty Tilt Cab Models
2007 and Prior Isuzu F-Series Medium Duty Tilt Cab Models
2006-2007 HUMMER H3

Supercede:

This bulletin is being revised to add model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 01-07-31-002A (Section 07 - Transmission/Transaxle). This bulletin is being issued to inform dealers of an improved procedure to aid in the ease of bleeding the clutch hydraulic system for the above listed vehicles. This procedure can be used anytime air is introduced into the hydraulic system. Following this procedure may also reduce the number of unnecessary parts replaced for low clutch pedal reserve and high shift effort.

Verify that all the lines and fittings are dry and secure.

Clean the dirt and grease from the reservoir cap in order to ensure that no foreign substances enter the system.

Remove the reservoir cap.

Fill the reservoir to the proper level with the required fluid.

Attach the J 43485 (Adapter) to the J 35555 (Mity Vac), or equivalent.

Brake fluid will deteriorate the rubber on J 43485. Use a clean shop cloth to wipe away the fluid after each use.

Place and hold the adapter on the reservoir filler neck to ensure a tight fit. In some cases, the adapter will fit into the reservoir opening.

Apply a vacuum of 51-68 kPa (15-20 hg) and remove the adapter.

Refill the reservoir to the proper level.

Repeat Steps 6 and 7.

If needed, refill the reservoir and continue to pull a vacuum until no more bubbles can be seen in the reservoir or until the fluid level no longer drops.

The vehicle will move if started in gear before the Actuator Cylinder is refilled and operational. Start the vehicle the first time in neutral to help prevent personal injury from vehicle movement and see if the transmission will shift easily into gear.

Pump the clutch pedal until firm (to refill actuator cylinder).

Add additional fluid if needed.

Test drive vehicle to ensure proper operation.
i can think of a lot of GM service procedures that dont work like they should.

i have personally done 3 cars that got brand new (dry) master cylinders and slave cylinders and all 3 took around 5 hours to bleed using the miti vac method, and even longer after giving up and doing it the old fashioned way.



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