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Old 02-14-2004 | 10:02 PM
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When im sitting at a stop light, ill put it in netrual and take my foot off the clutch. Now when i put my foot back on the clutch(its all the way down), and try to put it in gear, my car with very slightly jump foward. It only does it once you take your foot off and then put it back on and try to go into gear.

Also is anyone elses M6 hard to get into first gear sometimes, or do i have a tranny thats waiting to go bad

P.S. my car is a 2000 Z28 with about 50k on it.

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Old 02-14-2004 | 10:10 PM
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Are you still on the stock clutch? Mine is hard to get in first gear sometimes but my clutch is going out. I am still on stock clutch at 36k. Maybe your clutch is going bad?
Old 02-14-2004 | 11:22 PM
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It sound like you may have hydraulic problems.
Pump the clutch pedal up & then put it in gear & see if that reduces the "jump".
Do you have any problems with the pedal sticking down at high rpm's?
The early hydraulics were problematic.(F-bod 98-00)
I know me & alot of others been there..........
Old 02-14-2004 | 11:37 PM
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i cant say ive ever felt it stick down, what would you guys suggest, the drill mod? or something else?
Old 02-15-2004 | 12:54 AM
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Answer the other questions.

1. Is this the stock clutch?
2. Does the engagement point ever change. i.e. is the engagement near the top sometimes and near the floor sometimes?
3. Is there any brake fluid leaking out from the bellhousing between the motor and tranny? There is a little slot there.
4. Can you still launch hard on the street or is it slipping sometimes?
5. Is the fluid in the resevoir at the proper level?
6. What color is the fluid in the resevoir?
Old 02-15-2004 | 01:54 AM
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Well for me & my set-up & my driving habits, I replaced everything except fot the line which I did the drill mod on.
Not exactly what you want to hear but it's like night & day.
Old 02-16-2004 | 12:35 AM
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Answers to the questions
1. yes it the stock clutch.
2. the engagement has always been in about the same place
3. ill have to check
4.if i launch hard, all i do is spin, there is a set of falken tires on there from the previous owner
5.ill check
6.ill check
Old 02-20-2004 | 08:58 PM
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can you go through some of the answers and probelms to those questions? i feel like my catch point has changed in my car. sometimes it may be low but seems to be getting higher, could go back though to a little lower. i can not launch hard at all, just feel no grab. what is the brake down of the color of the fluid, what means what?
Old 02-21-2004 | 10:51 AM
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Well, I will tell you what I was thinking and maybe somebody else can jump in to add what I forget.

1. If it is the stock clutch and it has 50,000 miles on it, then that is most likely the problem. You have to be pretty easy on a clutch to get 50,000 miles on it.

2. If the engagement is moving around on the clutch, it can mean you have air in the hydraulics, or possible a worn out PP. With air in the hydraulics, it is common to have problems going into first/reverse.

3. Leaking fluid between the bellhousing and engine is an indication of a leaking slave cylinder. A leaking or worn out slave will cause problems with engaging 1st gear.

4. I was wondering how the clutch was performing. If it is still grabbing good and every other gear shifts good, then it may not be a clutch problem. The next question would be to try and start off in 2nd gear and see if he had the same problem.

5. Low fluid level in the resevoir will get air in the hydraulics and that causes shifting problems and the engagement point moves around etc... It can also be an indication of a busted slave/ master cylinder or a leak somewhere in the system.

6. Many people have reported that the fluid in their clutch hydraulics gets burned from how close the hydraulic line runs to the exhaust. If the fluid gets burned, it causes shifting problems. The fluid turns a dark color and you can't see through it when it is burned. The fluid should be a transparent amber color. The fix is to replace the fluid and either move the hydraulic line or add shielding to the hydraulic line.
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I was having these same type of problems, and yesterday when I checked the resevoir the fluid was black! Dark Black. I had shifted into second and it stayed at the floor and rolled to a stop, then died.

Could this be the burnt fluid, or is there other problems here?
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Originally Posted by Fad2blk_98
I was having these same type of problems, and yesterday when I checked the resevoir the fluid was black! Dark Black. I had shifted into second and it stayed at the floor and rolled to a stop, then died.

Could this be the burnt fluid, or is there other problems here?
You can try to flush the fluid, (add/bleed) but it will only lead you to the inevitable.
Replacement of the clutch & the hydraulics.
Old 02-22-2004 | 03:09 PM
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So you think I should just go ahead and replace them now? Is that just the slave cylinder and master, or are there other parts? Sorry, I'm new at this stuff LOL

Thanks for the help.




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